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From: "Paul J. Harris" <>
Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Citation formatting
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:20:47 -0500
In-Reply-To: <401D46AF.2010607@comcast.net>


Don,

I know well where you are coming from on this (CD1, CD2, ....), right?

I believe there IS a reason that the CD FIELD is labeled 'Where in source,'
and that is because that is about all it is intended for: volume, page,
column, or row numbers. Nothing fancy.

You have discovered that all the formatting power you want is in the Lead
Text, Annotation, and Source Notes fields. This isn't Kansas anymore, and we
don't HAVE to use the CD for EVERYTHING. <g>

Paul


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Zochert [mailto:]
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:34 PM
> To:
> Subject: [GENBOX] Citation formatting
>
>
>
> On a related topic, William T. Flight wrote:
>
> > The Lead Text, Excerpts, Annotation, and Citation Detail are
> all assumed to
> > be "output" text, that should be formatted and presented on reports.
>
>
> Hi, Bill,
>
> This confused me <g>. The Citation Detail is the same as the "Where in
> source" field. But that field CANNOT be formatted in the sense of
> applying italics or other text formatting to words within the
> [CD], can it?
>
> Circumstances in which you might want to italicize part of a [CD]
> might be:
>
> [ITAL]Samuel Hook[:ITAL0] v. [ITAL]Thomas
> James[:ITAL0], Superior Court Records, 1822-
> 1833, Book (Box) 3: 97, Arkansas History
> Commission, Little Rock
>
> or
>
> [ITAL:]Adelle[:ITAL] v. [ITAL]Beauregard[ITAL0],
> 1 Martin La., 183 (1810).
>
> Those examples are from Mills, and I've added the [ITAL][ITAL0] codes to
> set off the italicized part of the [CD].
>
> Another example occurs when a [CD] field *leads off* a citation:
>
> Peter-Michael Pawlik, [ITAL]Von der Weser in die Welt:
> Die Geschichte der Segelschiffe von Weser und Lesum
> und ihrer Bauwerften 1770 bis 1893[ITAL0], Schriften
> des Deutschen Schiffahrtsmuseums, Bd. 33 (Hamburg:
> Kabel, ca. 1993), pp. 235-236, no. 245, in Michael P. Palmer,
> List of Merchant Vessels (database online at <http://www.
> geocities.com/mmpraetorius/>).
>
> In this case, the [CD] is everything up to "in Michael P. Palmer..."
> (The material after "no. 245..." is based on a generic source template
> for online databases, and the title of the database, "List of Merchant
> Vessels," is easily italicized via codes in the template--that's
> separate from the point I'm making here.)
>
> Since formatting cannot be applied to text in the [CD] field, output
> like the above seems impossible in GB. It's not, however. In addition to
> the [CD] or "Where in source" field, the Cited Sources tab also contains
> the Lead Text and Annotation fields, and formatting CAN be applied to
> text in both of the latter fields. Achieving the results prescribed by
> Mills is as simple as leaving the [CD] field blank, entering your
> citation detail in the Lead Text or Annotation field, and applying text
> formatting via the menu bar option buttons. You have to think of the
> "Where in Source," Lead Text, and Annotation fields IN COMBINATION as
> the [CD].
>
> I don't know whether this has repercussions elsewhere, but it's one way
> to skin the cat. There must be a good reason why the "real" [CD] field
> itself is not subject to formatting.
>
> By the way, I love the Annotation field. Couldn't you add one to the
> list of source template codes? It would make it easier to discuss the
> merits or problems of a source in an "annotated bibliography." A key to
> doing this would be the ability to exclude the [ANNOTATION] element for
> a short bibliography and to include it for an annotated bibliography.
>
> Don
>
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