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From: "Ange Birkhead-Flight" <>
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:15:41 -0500
References: <CHEMKKAJHOKJPIEOPLKDAEOOEOAA.clcasper@sprynet.com>


Bill has the complete version on CD which works for 30 days. After 30 days
you can no longer enter data, but the other features still work so that you
can still evaluate other aspects of the program. It may be helpful to add
an option to the order form that allows for ordering the CD without the
license, charging only the shipping and packaging costs. But in any event,
we'll be able to help Phil. There are most likely many people who do not
like to download programs, and we appreciate Phil's bringing that to our
attention.

Ange

"Wars are poor chisels for carving out peaceful tomorrows."
- Martin Luther King Jr.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheri Casper" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries


> Phil - I'm sorry if this is causing you distress but the trial version
*is*
> the complete version, fully functional for 30 days. You download and use
it
> for that period. After that I think you can no longer enter data but I'm
> not sure because I purchased the program after using it for only 2 days or
> else you make the decision to purchase the program. Bill even offers an
> additional 30-day trial upon request. I don't know if any program that
> provides a trial version on CD other than Legacy or PAF (but you still
need
> to pay for the cost of the CDs, although the programs are essentially free
> in the first place unless you want the manuals and the add-ons. The
Master
> Genealogist has been a download for the past two years. Now you can
> purchase it on CD and it has a money back guarantee; the CD version has
only
> been available for about a month or so. It may be that Bill Flight, the
> developer, has a trial version on CD or makes the same deal that TMG does
.
> . . money back guarantee, but I can't speak for him. GenTech is going on
at
> the moment and Bill is there so you may want to contact him privately next
> week.
>
> If you don't decide to try GenBox, it will be your loss because it is the
> best of the pack. Paul Harris, a member of this list, used his previous
> program for over 12 years and made the switch. If you don't decide to try
> this program, then I guess you are just going to be stuck with one of
those
> programs that you rejected or you could look at the European programs such
> as Heredis or Parentele but I don't see the need to get nasty about how
this
> program is handled . . . even on a trial basis. There are a lot of great
> programs available for download and its too bad that you have such a
vocal,
> negative opinion of the process. I know that there are several people on
> this list who use ByGones in conjunction with GenBox. Since it is
freeware,
> it is only obtainable via download.
>
> One thing about this list is that the members are polite and there have
been
> no flames. Let's see that it stays that way, please.
>
> CheriC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Stevens [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:03 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries
>
>
> I ask about a TRIAL Version , NOT the Complete Thing , I Do not Know at
> this point IF i wanna use the prog !!!!!!!! , Phil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ange Birkhead-Flight" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries
>
>
> > There is a CD option on the order page. It costs a bit more than the
> > download, because of the additional costs of making the CD and shipping
> it.
> >
> > Ange
> >
> >
> > "Wars are poor chisels for carving out peaceful tomorrows."
> > - Martin Luther King Jr.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Stevens" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 2:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries
> >
> >
> > > Hello list , Just a lurker here wondering this : Is a Trial version
of
> > > GENBOX Available VIA CD in the Postal service ?? , I sotof like what
I
> > see
> > > on the Website , BUT wish to see how it handles MY data , Not Mr
> Lincoln
> > !!
> > > , I do Not wish to Download the prog ,
> > > Thank you , Phil
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "wim prange" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:04 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Don,
> > > >
> > > > I'll see what I can do.
> > > >
> > > > Gr. Wim
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: Don Zochert [mailto:]
> > > > > Verzonden: donderdag 22 januari 2004 13:30
> > > > > Aan:
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [GENBOX] Genbox FAQs - Queries
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If I could get a couple of examples for queries, that would be a
> > > > > great help.
> > > > > > The helpfile has some examples so I could use those too
probably.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Wim,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're really writing a FAQ, here are a couple queries I could
> use
> > > > > help on:
> > > > >
> > > > > * How would you identify all members of a single line--i.e., all
> > > > > ancestors and all descendants of a single target individual? Can
you
> > > > > limit the query to a specified number of generations? Can you
> > manipulate
> > > > > the resulting list? For instance, can you set a flag on all list
> > > > > members? Can you extract the results of this query to a new Genbox
> > > dataset?
> > > > >
> > > > > * How would you identify all persons in your database who lived
in
> a
> > > > > specific place and who are not related to a target individual?
This
> > > > > query would involve querying on multiple events (Birth, Residence,
> > > > > Census, etc.) to meet the first condition and a negative test to
> meet
> > > > > the second.
> > > > >
> > > > > * How would you identify all persons who were witnesses at
baptisms
> > in
> > > > > a specific country? How would you then create a report sorting the
> > > > > results by name of baptized child and by date? Could you create a
> > report
> > > > > showing the frequency with which each baptismal witness associated
> (as
> > a
> > > > > witness to a baptism event) with each other baptismal witness?
> > > > >
> > > > > * How would you identify each occurance of a place name or a
> textual
> > > > > reference to a specific source or person within ANY research note?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Don
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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