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From: "Bjarne Dein" <>
Subject: SV: [GENBOX] Please raise SOURCE levels to 4
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:06:01 +0200
In-Reply-To: <CHEMKKAJHOKJPIEOPLKDMEGMEGAA.clcasper@sprynet.com>


Hi Cheri

Thanks for your advice, but I don't believe, that it give the expected
overview as the first thing, next it will not give the 4 levels, that I
need.

The of using Places - THAT IS ONE of the most great things in GB - and I
just want everything like that - SOURCES too!!

Bill - I still have a hope!

Bjarne:-)

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Cheri Casper [mailto:]
Sendt: 18. august 2003 18:38
Til:
Emne: RE: [GENBOX] Please raise SOURCE levels to 4


Bjarne - Using the Higher Source, you would define the Publication.
Connecting a Lower Source you would add the Volume and Chapter in the
"Qualifier" field. The page is added when you add a Citation in the "Where
In Text" field. The current structure allows you do to this.

Alternatively, if you wish to be able to go to the Links and see only who is
on that Page, then I would suggest that you use the Source Notes field for
the page number and then make a Lower Source for each Page No. Then the
Links for the Lower Source would show you only how is on that page.

CheriC

-----Original Message-----
From: Bjarne Dein [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:15 AM
To:
Subject: [GENBOX] Please raise SOURCE levels to 4


Hi Bill,

I would kindly ask you to raise to levels of sources to 4, so I can have the
possibility of these levels:
1. Publication
2. Volume
3. Chapter
4. Page

4 levels, because some of the sources I use, have so many individuals and/or
places one just one page, so it's a lot easier to get an overview, of who
and what's one the same page.

Thanks in advance!

Bjarne:-)

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Paul J. Harris [mailto:]
Sendt: 18. august 2003 05:24
Til:
Emne: RE: [GENBOX] Amended Recap of problem w/ more than 2 authors


Bill,

Just a thought, but if it helps simplify your end, it probably would not be
too much of a burden for the user to SELECT the number of Authors from the
Author Drop-down list:

Author (1)
Author (2)
Author (3)
Author (4 or more)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: William T. Flight [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 9:41 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Amended Recap of problem w/ more than 2 authors


Hi Debbie,

Thanks for your examples. Parsing for multiple names is tricky. I believe
the algorithm was only designed to support two authors. Perhaps the data
entry needs to be changed to allow each author's name to be entered
separately; then it would be easier to handle the formatting correctly.

I'll keep this issue in mind for a future update.

Thanks,

-- Bill

William T. Flight
http://www.thoughtfulcreations.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Schnell Woolard" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: [GENBOX] Amended Recap of problem w/ more than 2 authors


> I'm amending my recap based on the questions raised by Paul. I found my
> copy of CMS, and using that as a guideline, I've included what that book
> suggests for the formatting of 3 authors and more than 3 authors.
>
> Bill,
> Here's a recap of my testing when you have more than 2 author's for a
book,
> which really needs to be looked at, especially when you have more than 3
> authors.
>
> 3 authors:
> Correct format should be:
> Prim. cit: Janes K. Wollard, Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft, and Kenneth
Laurent
> Sec. cit: Wollard, Ashcraft, and Laurent
> Bib: Wollard, Janes K., Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft, and Kenneth Laurent
>
> Authors entered as: Janes K. Wollard, Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft, and
> Kenneth Laurent
> Results: (Sec. cit. and Bib. wrong)
> Prim. cit: Janes K. Wollard, Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft, and Kenneth
Laurent
> Sec. cit: Ashcraft and Laurent
> Bib: Ashcraft, Janes K. Wollard, Delma (Kincheloe), and Kenneth Laurent
>
>
> Entered as: Janes K. Wollard, Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft and Kenneth
Laurent
> Results: (Only the Sec. cit. is wrong)
> Prim. cit: Janes K. Wollard, Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft and Kenneth
Laurent
> Sec. cit: Wollard and Laurent
> Bib: Wollard, Janes K., Delma (Kincheloe) Ashcraft and Kenneth Laurent.
>
>
> More than 3 authors:
> Correct format should be:
> Prim. cit: John Smith et al., or: John Smith and others,
> Sec. cit: Smith et al., or: Smith and others,
> Bib: Smith, John, Harry Jones, Jane Doe, and William Kirk. or: Smith,
> John, and others.
>
> Authors entered as: John Smith, Harry Jones, Jane Doe, and William Kirk
> Results: (Totally wrong)
> Prim. cit: John Smith, Harry Jones, Jane Doe, and William Kirk
> Sec. cit: Doe and Kirk
> Bib: Doe, John Smith, Harry Jones, Jane, and William Kirk
>
> Entered as: John Smith, Harry Jones, Jane Doe and William Kirk
>
> Results: (Totally wrong)
> Prim. cit: John Smith, Harry Jones, Jane Doe and William Kirk
> Sec. cit: Jones and Kirk
> Bib: Jones, John Smith, Harry, Jane Doe and William Kirk
>
> Entered as: Smith, John; Jones, Harry; Doe, Jane; Kirk, William
>
> Results: (Totally wrong)
> Prim. cit: Smith, John; Jones, Harry; Doe, Jane; Kirk, William
> Sec. cit: Kirk
> Bib: Kirk, Smith, John; Jones, Harry; Doe, Jane; William
>
> Entered as: John Smith; Harry Jones; Jane Doe; William Kirk
>
> Results: (Totally wrong)
> Prim. cit: John Smith; Harry Jones; Jane Doe; William Kirk
> Sec. cit: Kirk
> Bib: Kirk, John Smith; Harry Jones; Jane Doe; William
>
> -- Debbie Schnell Woolard
> --
> --
>
>
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