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From: "Sally Bowman" <>
Subject: Re: [GARDNER-UK] John Gardner
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:28:20 -0500
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Dear Wendy,
Thank you so much for responding to my request. Your information confirms
that the John Gardner that married Maria Chaloner is not my ancestor. I
followed your advice and have contacted the Shropshire records office.

Sally Bowman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Settle, Wendy" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [GARDNER-UK] John Gardner


> Sally,
> I would order the film from the Doward Chapel, Whitchurch,
> Shropshire and actually see what is written. Maybe his name was John
> Lucas Gardner and someone wrote the IGI wrong.
>
> My Gardner was listed as Gardiner but when I went to the actual parish,
> it was written correctly as Gardner.
>
> If you are sure that John and Maria were Matilda's parents:
>
> They had other children like John and Frederic
>
> FREDERIC GARDNER
> Christ: Dec 26, 1826 Holy Trinity, Chester, England
>
> Looking at the batch number for Matilda, there are two entries for Mary
> and Matilda with the same information. Don't rely on the information,
> go to the source.
>
> Wendy
> Gardner's from England and USA
> Washington State
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sally Bowman [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:12 AM
> To:
> Subject: [GARDNER-UK] John Gardner
>
> I am seeking information about JOHN GARDNER, gentleman, b. abt. 1791 in
> England. My difficulty in finding information about JOHN GARDNER has
> been this:
>
> The International Genealogical Index Record lists his name as LUCAS
> GARDNER and his wife's name as Maria. On my g-grandmother Matilda's
> typed Michigan Certificate of Death, his name is listed as JAMES
> GARDNER. Matilda died March 1891. I don't know who gave the information
> about her father's first name. His residence was listed as England. Her
> mother's name was not given.
>
> His name is listed as JOHN GARDNER on the Brig Plato Passenger list.
> JOHN GARDNER and his daughter Matilda sailed on the Brig Plato from
> Newport, England for the United States. They arrived in New York Oct 31,
> 1829. John was 38 years of age and Matilda was 9(From: Passenger and
> Immigration Lists, Ancestry.com). The following May they removed to a
> farm in Ontario County, New York, soon after to Yates County, New York.
> On April 1, 1835, Matilda started for Michigan with the family of
> Almeran Newman, arriving at Portland, Michigan May 23, 1835. JOHN
> GARDNER went back to England.
>
> Listed on Cheshire: Will and Inventories, 1811-1820 (A-L)
> Marriage Licences Granted within the Dincese of Chester.
> County: Cheshire, Country: England
> GARDNER, JOHN, of Manchester, gentleman. A 14 Mar 1816
>
> A JOHN GARDNER married MARIA CHALONER 20 Nov. 1817 at Holy Trinity,
> Chester, Cheshire, England. Their son JOHN GARDNER was Christened 12 Jan
> 1820 at Holy Trinity, Chester, Cheshire, England(From: the International
> Genealogical Index Record).
>
> My g-grandmother, MATILDA GARDNER, b. 9 Aug 1820 near the village of
> Whitchurch, Shropshire, England (From: Portrait and Biographical Record
> of Muskegon and Ottawa Counties, Biographical Publishing Company, 1893,
> pg. 396). She was bapt. December 1820, Doward Chapel, Whitchurch,
> Shropshire, England (From: the International Genealogical Index Record).
> Doward Chapel is still standing but is now used as a dwelling. A
> genealogical researcher in England did not find a LUCAS GARDNER
> connection.
>
> Any information, suggestions and further resources will be very much
> appreciated.
>
> Sally Bowman
> Indianapolis, IN, United States
>
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