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From: "DSA2003" <>
Subject: Re: FER-GOLD Reiver cousins and sheep
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:55:45 +0800
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The association of a stick with a crook on the end and sheep in the popular imagination comes from all those images of shepherds washing their socks by night especially popular at this time of year! :-}

A herd would have used a crook whether of not he was herding sheep or swine which are much the same size. It's a very useful tool for hooking out a particular animal for whatever reason.

David
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Seems somewhere I heard he carried a stick with a crook on the end. That tells me sheep.
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Subject: Re: FER-GOLD Reiver cousins and sheep

I've always thought of Patrick being a swine herd during his slavery.

As regards his origins, there are various theories, including that he originated from the area of modern day Battersea in London, and that his father was a prosperous merchant. It was while on a trading voyage that he was enslaved and taken to Ireland.

By the way, the term "Welsh" wouldn't have existed before the arrival of the Anglo-Saxons in Britain, as it is their word for "Foreigner". A common term to describe the population of post-Roman, pre-Anglo-Saxon Great Britain is "Romano-British". This term encompasses not only the native Celts but also the population descended from the Roman immigrants who came from all over the Roman Empire (Syrians, Nubians, Iberians etc). Archaeologists at Vindolanda, a fort on Hadrian's Wall have in recent years been reading the 'archives' of the garrison. In the early 3rd century the garrison was the "Fourth Cohort of Gauls".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindolanda

David Armstrong
Maylands
Western Australia


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