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From: Ruth McLaughlin <>
Subject: Re: FER-GOLD Protestant reaction to 1829 Emanicpation
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:52:40 -0400
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I never thought of... the Rector himself. DUH!

My gg grandfather certainly grew up not very far from C of I Rectory;
I've been there for tea myself! My gg grandfather was about 8 when
Rev. Gabriel's mathematical genius son, George Gabriel, was born.
Given the staunch Anglicans my Gilhulys were from the moment they
arrived in Canada, I assumed they'd 'converted' in Ireland and
therefore fondly wondered if just maybe, my gg James and his younger
brothers William and John, might have crossed paths with young George
Gabriel in Sunday school?

I do have contact with the Carrowgilhuly family (and hence to Fr.
Dominick) and know about the Collooney family too but no bridges for
links — yet. Sadly church records started a decade and more after my
family left for Canada in the late 1820s. I've just now remembered
that one of the migrating clan, Uncle Patrick, in applying for a
quasi-military job in Canada, stated that he "faithfully served...
King and County in the Yeomanry Infantry in his native County for a
space of 18 years"; is that the same as belonging to the Fermanagh or
Leitrim Militia? Hmm... given that, maybe you're right about their
orientation, *well before* emigrating! I'd be much happier to think
they didn't 'have to' leave, since I love it and the people so much.
The Skreen Catholic priest was a wonderful dear, assisting me find all
earliest family data extant. That seems to be where the most data
was/is but it's not adequate..

I do need to understand how land holding there is a contrast with land
holding in Fermanagh. Is that an easy answer? Is Fermanagh a
plantation system and so not affected by Cromwellian settlement.
What's the difference? What difference does it make in practical
terms. Is Leitrim like Fermangh? These kinds of economic relationships
are more significant, I'd guess, than even religious push or pull?

Thanks for all this Barry. Got the old brain working. Now back to the
EPPI yet again.

Ruth
(Ottawa)



On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:14 PM, barry bradfield
<> wrote:
>
> Hi Ruth,
> The Reverend in Skreen was Revd. Gabriel STOKES (1762-1834) aged 72
> Buried in Skreen.(He was there many years)
> You can also find out a lot about Skreen in the EPPI papers.
>
> The Gilhulys .....and the variation of the spelling of the name were obviously
> an ancient family in the area with the townland of Carrowgilhowy near the
> Castle of Ardnaglass theirs.
>
> However a few miles away in Colloney you have a Gillholey with about 40
> acres "in Fee"..........Cromwellian plantation.........?
> So it would appear as if some of your Gilhulys were English orientated at an
> early stage.
>
> However within the context of Skreen and conversions I'm not sure
> ..............as regards what Prof Des Bowen said.............
> But I do know that if the family of the local priest converted to C of
> I................there would certainly be a problem.........
> "Fr Dominick GILHAWLEY d. 30/12/1817 aged 30"
> grave in Skreen Church
>
> Barry

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