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From: "Michael Gilbey" <>
Subject: Re: [Ess] PHOEBE PERRY
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 23:47:42 +0100
I had a similar problem in Finchingfield in the 1700's trying to trace a
baptism and parents without success. The only conclusion I could eventually
reach was that in this particular case the individual was never baptised. It
took 18 years before I discovered this individuals original marriage license
at the ERO, (he was married twice). Attached to the marriage license was an
allegation of age by the mother, (a widow) giving consent to her under age
(19) sons marriage. The mothers name on the allegation eventually
established his parents and from this I could deduce that the father who I
already had in my tree died shortly after his sons birth. This is probably
why he never baptised.
The moral of the story being that not everyone was baptised. If your Phoebe
Perry married as a minor then there is still an outside chance there will be
an allegation as to age for a parent attached to her marriage license
providing it still exists at the ERO.
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: [Ess] PHOEBE PERRY
> Hello List,
> I've reached a brick wall and would appreciate any suggestions/help as to
> how to proceed.
> I'm looking for my gt gt grandmother, Phoebe Perry, who was born,
> to the various censuses, between 1833 and 1835 in Finchingfield. Her
> parents were John and Sarah Perry (nee Hills).
> I can't find any birth/baptismal record for Phoebe. I've manually trawled
> through the PRs for Finchingfield from 1820-1844; I've checked all the
> birth/baptismal and other PRs available on Ancestry, FindmyPast and the
> IGI. As
> the baptisms of some of Phoebe's siblings are recorded in the
> non-conformist registers, I've checked them as well; I found one Phoebe
> Perry bap. 1835
> but with the wrong parents and in the wrong part of Essex - parents were
> Samuel and Elizabeth Perry, not John and Sarah. Just in case I'd made a
> mistake with my Phoebe's parentage, I rechecked the censuses and her
> certificate and her father is definitely John and she is shown all
> her life as born in Finchingfield. There are no other suitable Phoebe
> in the Non-conformist registers.
> So where do I go from here? I can track down all of Phoebe's siblings and
> I can trace her through the censuses (except 1851 which was destroyed),
> marriage and her death certs and her children's births - but I can't find
> her baptism/birth. Where to look now? Any suggestions appreciated!
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