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From: "Jenny De Angelis" <>
Subject: Re: [Ess] Brothers/Cousins
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:48:21 +0200
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Tony

You did not say in which parish you found the baptism of those Pottrell
children that you have found so far. I made a search of the IGI at the
familysearch site for Mary Pottrell baptism in 1681 Essex and came up with
one baptised in August 1681, spelling Potterell, at Chrishall Essex where
the father was called Isaac and the mother was Mary.

The batch number for this entry is C043371 and I used that to make a search
adding just the fathers name of Isaac Potterell. I got up a list of results
as follows.

Jonathan bapt. 6th Oct. 1767 Chrishall
Isaac bapt. 23rd. Sept. 1689 Chrishall
Thomas bapt. 30th May 1687 Chrishall
David bapt. 26th Sept. 1678 Chrishall
Ann bapt. 24th Dec. 1683 Chrishall
All are shown with parents as Isaac and Mary.

Would any of these belong in your line, or are they the unconnected line you
have mentioned in your message.

What about these children of William Pottrell and wife mary?
Isaac bapt. 12th. Feb. 1677 Chrishall
William bapt. May 1682 Chrishall
Jacob bapt. 29th Apr. 1680 Chrishall
Henry bapt. 21st. May 1686 Chrishall.

did find a few Francis Pottrell and variant spellings baptised, shown in
the IGI, but most of them seemed to be in Lincolnshire. I also found a few
Homas Pottrell baptisms in Lincolnshire where the father was called William.
Could your Pottrells have had connections with Linconshire?

Where was your Mary Pottrell baptised and what was her fathers name, and her
mother's name if you know it?

I agree with others who have said that if the will mentions Cousins then
they were cousins and not brothers nor brothers in law. I know that
Brother/Sister in law can mean step brother/sister and that son/daughter in
law meant step son/daughter in the past but have not heard of cousins being
called brothers.

I searched the LDS family history library catalogue, making a place search
for Chrishall Essex and found that they have on micro film the PRs for
Chrishall 1661-1912. Perhaps you could hire the film at your nearest LDS
centre and look at the pre 1680 entries. There are 2 films but only one of
them contains Bapts. Marrs and Burs for years 1661-1812, this is film number
857071 and the PRs are on Item 2 of that film. The other film has each
catergory of PR split over varying years, that film is 1472109 items 34-40.
If it were me I would order the first of these two films and see how I get
on.

Regards
Jenny DeAngelis.
Spain.

> What's got me thinking is that around 1700 my family has 3 distinct
> branches (I cannot link them as the records only go back as far as 1680).
> I have found a will of a Richard Pottrell that refers to "my Three
> Brothers Francis, Henry and Thomas" and "my Sister Mary Brice" as some of
> the beneficiaries.
> There is a record of a William Brice and Mary Pottrel marrying in the
> parish in 1702. There is also a baptismal record for a Mary Pottrell in
> 1681 (making her the perfect age of 21) whom I have previously linked into
> my direct tree. That places Richard in my tree nicely, despite there
> being no record of Richard's baptism. There are a couple of large gaps
> between siblings which could suggest missing people. (1676, 78, 81, 83,
> 87, 89)
> However, from the baptism records I can only find one candidate for the
> three brothers in the will, namely Thomas. There is no record at all of
> any Francis Pottrells in the register so can only assume he wasn't
> baptised. There are some Henrys', but they are on the unlinked branch.
> Would it be outrageous for me to make an educated guess that Richard, Mary
> and Thomas had another two brothers called Francis and Henry? Or does the
> term 'brothers' also apply to cousins?


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