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From: "Jay Kay" <>
Subject: Re: [Ess] Re structural mods to old churches
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:20:13 +0100
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Well done indeed, I sincerely hope your efforts will be rewarded, one can
only hope the present occupiers/vandals will move away - but not sure who
could take it over knowing that the cost of rectifying all that damage will
be very large.


On 6/24/06, Colleen <> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who offered advice with this query about the
> incongruous
> structural mods that have been made to the ancient church of All Saints,
> Tolleshunt Knights - which include cemented up stone windows, a modern PVC
> window in the rear, windows fitted in the roof and very poorly done, DIY
> cementing of ancient rendering which does more damage than it repairs.
> I contacted SPAB as suggested, who were very helpful and told me that they
> aren't happy about the mods either, and neither are the local authority.
> SPAB also told me that, contrary to my belief, the church was Grade 2
> Listed
> in 1959, which should have given it a measure of protection. SPAB also
> said
> that the Monastery who've owned the church for the past 50 - 60 years have
> applied for permission to have an approved firm apply a new coat of
> rendering to the outside of the church and that, because of the amount of
> damage to the rendering that's already occurred, this has been approved by
> the local authority. I can't honestly see that this drastic a course of
> action is necessary or justified, though I'd like to find out more about
> just how much of the rendering is to be covered up by this work. This
> seems
> to me to leave the door wide open for anyone who wants to modernise a
> Listed
> building and can't get permission to do to get this by the 'back door' -
> by
> stealthily carrying out a series of small, incongruous alterations which
> do
> so much damage that they then force the local authority to allow them to
> do
> what they want. I'm not suggesting that this is what the owners of All
> Saints have done, but others could certainly do it.
> SPAB advised me to contact the local authority, they've been very helpful
> and I've been speaking to them over the past few days. One thing I've
> learned is that, as I suspected, most of the DIY work that been carried
> out
> at All Saints has been done without permission. The Listed buildings staff
> said that the problem they have is that they can't prove when the work was
> actually carried out. I hope that my collection of the church from c 1902,
> through the 1920s, 40s, 50s and 2000 might help to establish that some of
> this work has been carried out under the present owners. However, one
> member
> of staff has suggested that even if this can be shown, if the work was
> done
> over 10 years ago then there may not be much chance of taking any action
> in
> respect of this. In my view that's outrageous. All in all, I believe the
> regulations protecting Listed buildings are far too permissive.
> At least the local authority say they are looking into my complaint and
> these mods a bit more now. I hope at least that the knowledge that there's
> been a complaint and that someone is keeping an eye on this church will
> prompt the present owners to be ensure that future work to the church is
> carried out by contractors who are qualified to do it and who will work
> under the guidance of the Listed Buildings staff.
> Staff have said they will also look into my concern that graveyard appears
> to have become sparser in recent years. I'm taking my old pictures there
> this weekend to compare the building - and graves - now with the pictures
> of
> these over the years.
> One other point of concern is that when I last looked inside the church,
> the
> Baptismal font, where my grandmother and her brothers and sisters were
> baptised in the 1890s, had been moved to a room at the back of the church.
> The Listed buildings office staff have told me that this has since been
> moved to the Monastery - I do hope its still there.
> If anyone has any further thoughts on any of this I'd be interested to
> hear
> them.
> Colleen

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