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From: Ingrid Billings <>
Subject: Re: [Ess] Re: Help! Where would you look next?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:02:29 +0000
Was wondering ( i know almost as dangerous as thinking) could they have
been baptised around the area - i.e. parishes around Burnham i found
some Tillingham and Burnham in Purleigh. Yes looking for Clark(e).
Could she be called by a shorter name or Beth, Lizzie, Bell, or Eliza?
In message <02cc01c5ff80$6c9e0800$>, Colleen
>Thanks, Lawrence - and also Jean and Anne Marie for mailings off list.
>Some very good points there. Hope you're wrong about the smoke though,
>Lawrence, we can do without it in all of its incarnations :-)
>I did wonder if my Elizabeth might have had a late Baptism so looked a
>bit further on in the register, however, I may not have looked far
>enough ahead. Will do now! I can't find her marriage to my Dice 3 x Gt
>Grandfather either, perhaps she might even have been Baptised as an
>adult, maybe just prior to marriage? If so, finding the Baptism may
>find the marriage too. Which I think would mean a Blackwater village
>Baptism, can't see my 3 x Gt Grandfather having moving far from Tudwick
>somehow, his whole family were rooted there for donkey's years.
>So you're right about the possibility that she may have moved as a
>baby. And there were Cooks who were mariners there abouts. Perhaps
>Elizabeth's father was one of them and moved his the family across the
>Blackwater to Goldhanger or Heybridge, or somewhere along the coast
>near there? Hm. A lot to think about there. Brilliant!
>From: "La Greenall" <>
>To: "'Colleen'" <>; <>
>> Don't worry Colleen, the 'smoke' is on it's way! In both senses of the
>> term! Well and truly! Don't hold your breath (sorry couldn't resist it)!
>> Firstly, don't forget that Burnham wouldn't have had a registration
>> district in the 1790s - they weren't formed until 1837.
>> Secondly, here's a little thought that struck me the other day, which
>> may or may not be of help. It's all too easy to forget that parish regs
>> (putting aside nonconformity for the moment) were not created for the
>> reasons we use them for. They were used by the taxman for
>> revenue-collection. Think of the average family with a new arrival;
>> Now, with this delay between ceremony and 'registration' the vicar, and
>> the family, would be under some powerful influences. The child has been
>> baptised, so as far as the family and the vicar is concerned, all is
>> well. But if the baptism was to remain unrecorded, then it might be
>> possible that the taxman might not notice the new addition to his source
>> of revenue. Consequently, the family might well try asking the vicar if
>> he could, er, well you know. And the vicar, concerned as always with the
>> Thirdly, have you checked to see if your Lizzie was baptised some years
>> later, perhaps at the same time as a younger sibling was? This does
>> sometimes happen, for a variety of reasons, such as a period of
>> unsettled residence in different parishes before the family finally
>> And lastly of course, she may well have been born in Burnham but was
>> baptised halfway across the country!
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