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From: "Colleen" <>
Subject: Re: CHRISTIE - 1861 Boarding school, Harlow
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:05:26 +0100
References: <000601c57dbb$56aecda0$13700650@Vaio> <013d01c57dcc$a3b51080$295d1ed3@ADOUGHTY>
Blimey its gone quiet on all the lists today - Live8 and Pink Floyd mania?
Ok, back to Essex family history.
My neighbour and I spent ages at the old school house today trying to work
out where your Chisties were living while at boarding school here in the
Clever Alice told me that the old school next to her school house wasn't St
Mary's as I believed, it was named Churchgate School, St Mary's was an even
older school which was located in the gabled building nearby. This is still
there and is now a house. Behind it is an old flint and red brick building
which is now used as our parish office - it used to be our polling station
where we voted too until quite recently. Churchgate School was founded in
1850, Alice said, so St Mary's was founded sometime before then - which
means that either could have been the candidate for your Christie ancestors'
While Churchgate school was intended as a boarding school, Alice doesn't
think children ever boarded there. However, they could quite easily have
boarded in the building behind St Mary's - it looks very much as though it
could have been St Mary's annex - but we don't know if that was ever the
Its puzzling, where did that long list of pupils on the 1861 Churchgate
Street census with only servants to look after them board? There are a
number of possiblities aside from the St Mary's and annex option. One is
that when Churchgate School was founded in 1850, St Mary's may have become
its dormitory, so that children were taught in Churchgate school but slept
and lived at St Mary's. Both schools at that time consisted of just one
large, high ceilinged hall apiece apparently. I would think St Mary's would
have been large enough - by the standards of the 1850s-60s - to accomodate
all the lads listed on the census, as would the 'annex'.
On the other hand, they could have been educated at Churchgate School and
accomodated in any one of a number of large old houses here. Across the road
from the church is Churchgate House, which could have been used as
accomodation for the school at one stage. On the corner of the Street is
another large old house, around the corner is Needhams, then there's Little
Hillsborough etc. I'm going to ask someone I know at Harlow museum if he can
throw any light on this.
I took some photos today which I'm about to send you. I couldn't get too
close to the church or 'annex' as there was a big wedding at the church and
the churchyard and all around it was crammed with guests, so will photograph
these another time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janice Doughty" <>
> Believe it or not, at the time of the 1861 Census there are three Edward
> CHRISTIES at the boarding school and two others, all are either brothers
> or cousins they are : -
> Edward J H CHRISTIE - Aged 17 - Born Woolwich, Kent. )
> Walter H CHRISTIE - Aged 16 - Born Woolwich, Kent ) Brothers
> Edward T CHRISTIE - Aged 17 - Born Sydney, NSW Australia. (This is
> Edward W CHRISTIE - Aged 12 - Born East Indies
> Harry B CHRISTIE - Aged 9 - Born Malta.
> (I have also been informed that Sydney Australia, has been transcribed in
> error as Linley, Austria and the T stands for Tolfrey, his paternal
> grandmother's maiden name).
> These are sons of the some of the 6 Military CHRISTIE brothers. When I
> discovered this wonderful Military record of this family, a saying popped
> into my mind "All the Brothers were Valiant". The seventh was the eldest
> brother, the Rev. John Frederick CHRISTIE, who was the Rector of Ufton
> Nervet in Berkshire, but sadly passed away in 1860. The Christies were a
> very religious family and were very much involved in the Church, as well
> as the Military.
> I would very much appreciate photographs, they do help to put meat on the
> bone. Thank you very much for all this wonderful information.
> Belrose - in Old Sydney Town
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colleen" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:33 AM
> Subject: [Ess] CHRISTIE - 1861 Boarding school, Harlow
> >I think you're In luck, Janice. All of my Harlow censuses are out on
> loan at present, so I tried a search on Ancestry 's 1861 census for Harlow
> and up popped your Edward TH Christie, born in Woolwich, still at school
> in Harlow aged 17. What a coincidence too, since this school is in
> Churchgate Street (the original, very old part of Harlow) and I live less
> than a minute's walk from there. There are two old schools on Churchgate
> Street of the period you're looking for - which I negelcted to mention in
> my previous posting - can you believe I forgot to tell you about schools
> so close to my cottage!
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