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From: Steve Taylor <>
Subject: Re: [Ess] Oldest Photos, (was Good news for Parsons Hunters)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:01:18 +0000
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Hi Jenny

Out of interest, which photographer was it? I'm interested as I have a
number of family photos from the turn of the century from Newcastle and
the surrounding areas.

As to sites for dating by clothes I have found Victorian and Edwardian
Photographs From the Roger Vaughan Picture Library at
http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/ to be helpful and also
http://www.museumofcostume.co.uk/ though it can be a bit hard work
navigating it at times.

Cheers
Steve
Researching
Taylor, Maggs, Forster, Dobson, Pringle, Wilson, Tate, Hetherington,
Hume, Hogg, Mackey in Northumberland & Durham UK
Barnard, Dowsett, Smith, Wendon, Rudkin in Essex UK
Caddy in Cornwall UK
Maggs, Plummer in Somerset UK


Jenny De Angelis wrote:

> I have a photo, but not an Essex one, of my Gt. Gt. grandmother who
> died in 1887. She is shown in what is obviously a photographers
> studio, where most portrait photos at that time would be taken I
> imagine. She is a shown as an elderly lady dressed in a button
> fronted dress wearing a shoulder cape with a bobble fringe around the
> edge and a soft looking small bonnet on her head with flowers along
> the front of it. The photograher was in business in the 1881 census.
> The place where the photo was taken was Newcastle Upon Tyne in
> Northumberland. My Gt. Gt. Grandmother had moved there after the 1881
> census which allows me to date it between 1881 and her death in 1887,
> she would have been about 75years of age in the mid 1880s. The
> photographers name and address are on the bottom of the photo and he
> was in business in the 1881 census and in the trade directories for
> around the same time.
>
> I have another photo from a few years after the one above. It is of
> my Gt. Grandmother, the daughter in law of the above lady, and her
> daughter who was my grandmother. My grandmother appears as a young
> woman aged about 17 or 18. She was born in 1872 so this would date the
> photo about 1889, she is not wearing a wedding ring in the photo and
> that helps date the photo before her marriage in 1892. This one is
> not a studio portrait but is taken in a back yard with the window of
> the house behind the people in the picture. So did someone in the
> family have a camera of their own, or was it a photographer who called
> around the streets touting for business?
>
> What I need is a really good site showing dress at different periods
> so that I can try to place the clothes being worn in these and other
> old photos that I have.
>
> The elderly lady in the first photo that I mentioned above probably
> was wearing clothes that she had had for some years so not necessarily
> giving a true dating to the photo by her clothes. That is why the
> photographers name and address and finding out when he was in business
> in that area along with the dates of the lady's moving from one to
> place to another and the date of her death are so important in dating
> this particular photo
>
> The other photo would be easier to date from the clothes because of my
> grandma being a young woman, her mother was a dressmaker so she would
> likely have made her 2 daughters the latest fashions that they would
> no doubt have wanted to wear.
>
> Regards
> Jenny DeAngelis
> Spain.
>
>> I have some family photos of so far unidentified ancestors but the
>> oldest
>> one I can identify is one of my LING ancestors photographed in only
>> 1902. He
>> was born in 1846. Not very long ago really. I would be interested to
>> know
>> who has either the earliest identifiable photo or indeed the oldest
>> subject.
>> Any takers ?
>> Regards
>> Martin
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