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From: "Alec" <>
Subject: Re: No Response/Trying again ROBERTSON
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:25:26 +0100
References: <010701c48a68$8e56c6a0$78211dd3@yourdlbx5ye5uv>


Hi
Not strictly true!
1837online is a pay site. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ is a FREE site and
the latest date currently available is 1983 and is constantly being updated
Alec


----- Original Message -----
From: "DA & TR Shean" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: No Response/Trying again ROBERTSON


> Hi
> Lawrence wrote
>
> <<You could try the GRO indexes - and I don't mean the online ones as
> they'll have a 100-year cutoff too -..
>
> Not so ... http://www.1837online.com/Trace2web/
>
> On this site you will find the entire copy of the indexes of Birth,
> Marriages and Deaths for England and Wales from 1837 to the 2002.
>
> I have had no trouble whatsoever obtaining reasonably recent certificates
> BMD - (eg 1984 death certificate for a great aunt) on provision of the GRO
> reference and completion of the appropriate application form.
>
> Teresa
> Darwin Australia
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Greenall" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:33 AM
> Subject: RE: No Response/Trying again ROBERTSON
>
>
> > Unfortunately you're trying to research in the wrong direction Trudy. If
> you
> > were to go back in time from 1901 things would be easy. But going
forward
> > will take a lot of doing! Censuses, GRO certificates and parish
registers
> > all have a 100-year block on them, meaning that they are not availbale
for
> > the public to browse or consult. The only way you could check a record
> less
> > than a century old is if the entry concerned yourself (or possibly a
> direct
> > relative) and you could prove the fact - usually by supplying, for
> > verification purposes, the very data that most genealogists would hope
to
> > discover from the record!
> >
> > You could try the GRO indexes - and I don't mean the online ones as
> they'll
> > have a 100-year cutoff too - but the thick old heavy volumes in London,
> > meaning a dedicated holiday for you I imagine. After somewhere about the
> > 1920s I believe the birth indexes include the mother's name, or am I
mixed
> > up (marriage indexes?). However trying to piece together a family tree
> from
> > this would be a mammoth task. The only other alternative, short of
> employing
> > a professional researcher, that I can think of would be to advertise in
> the
> > local newspaper(s) to where the family probably ended up - but mobility
at
> > this time and in this region was quite active, people often staying put
> for
> > only a short time.
> >
> > There are Electoral Registers, which are technically in the public
domain,
> > the current year being available in whatever local public library serves
> > each district, and runs of years often being archived at County record
> > Offices or similar; but these days, after they have been hijacked by
> > marketing firms to send out paper-based spam recently, it is pretty
> > difficult to gain access to anything more than your own entry, to check
> its
> > accuracy (assuming you're a resident of course). What's more, the
Register
> > now comes in two forms, one complete but very locked away, and the other
> > publicly available within tight restrictions, but from which anyone can
> 'opt
> > out from' by filling in a form.
> >
> > One company a few years ago put the whole UK Electoral Registers (the
> > current year) onto a CD for sale to businesses; occasionally these found
> > their way onto computer magazine covers, and you may with luck be able
to
> > track down a copy. It's called UK Info-Disk, and the best one to get (if
> > still possible) would be the 2000 edition, being the last 'complete' one
> > before people could have their entries removed (I believe the company
has
> a
> > website where you can click on links to have your details excluded).
> Current
> > editions cost a lot of money and will be subject to such exclusions.
> >
> > Another resource would be trade and street directories, but of course
> you'd
> > still have to visit British repositories in person (the SoG Library is a
> > good one for this) to see them, and they're definitely less complete
than
> > the Electoral Registers!
> >
> > Have you tried the likes of the GRD or the ESFH members' interests
lists?
> > You may just come across a researcher called Robertson who could prove
to
> be
> > a descendant of this line - a long shot, admittedly!
> >
> > Sorry for the bad news, but you did ask for a reply :( I just hope I'm
out
> > of date and sks jumps in to correct me to your benefit, Trudy.
> >
> > Good luck, Lawrence
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Trudy Challborn [mailto:]
> > > Sent: 24 August 2004 22:36
> > > To:
> > > Subject: No Response/Trying again ROBERTSON
> > >
> > >
> > > I am trying to trace this family forward as they were not yet
> > > married on the
> > > 1901 census. There are many ROBERTSONs and my James came from
Scotland
> in
> > > 1897. Rachel's history I have up to the time she married. I am
seeking
> > > information to find the line from 1903 to present day.
> > >
> > > I am searching for JAMES (FAIR?) ROBERTSON and his wife RACHEL (LAKE).
> I
> > > have
> > > the following information but do not know how to use it. Hoping
> > > someone can
> > > help me find this family.
> > >
> > > 13 July 1903 Mile End Old Town London: James Fair Robertson
> > > insurance agent
> > > married Rachel Lake
> > >
> > > 15 August 1910: Death of Rachel's mother (Rachel Lake) registered by
J
> L
> > > Robertson son in law living 26 Grosvenor Road Forest Gate
> > >
> > > 17 July 1912: Death of Rachel's father (William Lake) registered
> > > by James F
> > > Robertson son in law living 28 Kitchener Road West Ham
> > >
> > > 1914 Kelly's Directory London Suburbs: Robertson James Fredrick
> > > Insurance
> > > agent living 28 Kitchener Road, West Ham, Essex
> > >
> > > Post office London County Suburbs Directory for 1917, 1918,1919:
> > > Robertson
> > > James Insurance Agent/ Southwest side/ HIGH STREET London/ 20
> > > Mitcham Road,
> > > Tooting, SW 17 in the street directory and commercial directory pages.
> > >
> > > I would like to know if there were voters lists or some other way to
> find
> > > this family. I have no idea if there are children or what has become
of
> > > this family. How can I use this information to proceed? Not to sure
> what
> > > parish records to order to find this family as I am lost! Please
HELP!
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance for any info.
> > > Trudy in Alberta Canada
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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