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From: "Pam Dale" <>
Subject: Re: It would be interest me to learn why
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 23:38:17 +1000
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Hi Lois and Listers

I don't have any convicts in my ancestry. At least not that I know of, they
all came out to Australia in the late 1800's. I feel a bit out of it. A lot
of people here are quite proud of their convict ancestors. My
brother-in-law always says he has one up on us because he has a convict

I started this obsession when I retired and bought a computer. My father
always said that we were descended from Anthony Ashley COOPER, Earl of
Shaftsbury. There were supposed to have been some large estates that were
to come to us but some old widower up and married a very young woman and
thereby goes the estate. I have not found evidence of that yet. Someone
had done some research about 50-60 years ago and I have come into possession
of some of the info which I have been steadily checking. We certainly
aren't descended from the seventh earl who was involved in the Industrial
Revolution. My Mum claims to be descended from Robert the Bruce of
Scotland. I rather suspect that these family stories are handed down and
maybe enlarged as time goes by.

It is certainly a very interesting hobby and takes up far too much of my

Pam in sunny Brisbane Australia

Researching COOPER, BARRELL (Essex, Suffolk, and Middlesex), BAKER, HULLY,

---- Original Message -----
From: Lois and Bruce Walker <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: It would be interest me to learn why

> Hi Listers
> I hope that you aren't tired of this thread by now, but as my reason
> differs from others I have already seen, I thought that I would add my
> reason for researching the family tree.
> Even when I was a child I heard stories that my great grandfather was
> transported to Western Australia, but even so family members would deny
> outright that he was a convict. Others would say that he came to Western
> Australia before he was given the one-way ticket. And there were all sorts
> of reasons for him changing his name!
> My mother always called me a 'sticky-beak' so what else could I do but
> research the family? And found three convicts! My great grandfather was
> born in Bures Hamlet, spent several years in West Bergholt, and did some
> 'work' in London which is where he was when convicted. He married the
> daughter of another convict. They came from Devon in 1858. Another
> of this convict also married a convict - the social scale was well and
> truly alive.
> Anyway, I have answered some questions but not all, and I 'think' that
> relatives accept that great grandfather was a convict. Not many of the
> older generation left now and those of us of the 'younger' generation
> it very fascinating. For those of you not in Australia, it has almost
> become a 'must have' to be descended from a convict.
> Lois
> ______________________________

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