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Subject: Re: TWICE in the 1881 census?
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:35:20 +0000


Just thought I'd reply to Noel's very sensible points about my possible
twice-in-the-1881-census question.

>I don't wish to doubt the research work of others.

I think doubt is a very useful thing myself - it's easy to make silly
mistakes or wrong assumptions (having done both at various times). It's
great to be able to ask people on the list whether what you are thinking
holds together.

>
>But, I must say I find this "double appearance" to be most odd.

Yes, very odd.

>
>I can accept that a person might have been "present" at two different
>households in the same village, and can think of a number of reasons why
>this might occur. But in two completely different locations ......? Why
>on earth would two households say that the same person was present?
>

I believe in this case one household contains a second wife and her mother,
and the other a child from a first marriage with brother and his family. I
suspect this guy is working in Bethnal Green in London but his wife has to
look after her elderly mother back in Mountnessing in Essex.

>Further, are we talking here about the transcribed version on CD-ROM, or
>the actual census "as enumerated"?

This is the transcription and I agree one cannot be sure without looking at
the originals. The guy in question though is a George Aylett: there aren't
too many of these around, and because I have a different one who is missing
(it seems) from the 1881 census I have been following up all the rest.

>
>There were many instances of people with the same name, and same
>birthplace, and the same age; often this occurred with first cousins. So
>can we be completely sure that we are dealing with the same person, or
>two persons with the same name?
>

That's very true, and my own Tillingham Ayletts had a number of cousins
like this (including a bunch all called George). In this case, the 1851
census index for Mountnessing shows only one family there, and they have a
George of the right age to be both of the ones in 1881. If anyone comes
across any more Ayletts in Mountnessing please do let me know - maybe
someone can let me know what the situation was in the 1861 census index?

There is a load of other stuff if anyone is interested in the detail of
this, but currently I am, say, 90% sure the same guy has been registered in
two places.

Ruth
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