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From: "JEANETTE SHERMER" <>
Subject: Re: 1901 census transcription OUR RIGHTS
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:38:13 -0000
I think you will find that all the information on the 1901 census is "Public
Information / Knowledge" and the PRO cant charge for us to look at it, If
you look at it on the web then the PRO can charge for the work they have
done putting it on the web. If we go to a Public Record office and look it
up then there is no charge
and there by the 1901 census is Not Copy Rght. so if we read some of it
and then we choose to 'SHARE OUR INFORMATION'
then what can anyone do about that. Its Public Information.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lesley Lynch <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: 1901 census transcription
> I would be happy to assist in the project, but as I live in Sunderland I
> will need to know where to obtain print outs.
> I also think that it may be worth checking if we will be infringing any
> copyrights ourselves although the PRO and Quini (whatever) will have a
> job trying to stop all of us!
> Do we have any legal experts out there who could advise?
> I also feel very strongly about taking the matter further and wonder what
> legal recourse we, the public, may have - firstly for the records not
> made available on 1 January and secondly for the likely inaccuracies
> per cent).
> >From: "jacqueline.cooper" <>
> >Subject: 1901 census transcription
> >Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:18:02 -0000
> > the 1901 census follows the same format as the 1891, as far as I
> > > remember.
> > >
> > > The column heads are:
> > >
> > > Column 1 - number of schedule
> > > Column 2 - ROAD, STREET etc and No or NAME of HOUSE
> > > 3-7 HOUSES: 3 - inhabited; 4 - in occupation; 5 - not in occupation;
> > > building; 7 - number of rooms occupied if less than five
> > > 8 - Name and Surname of each Person
> > > 9 - RELATION to Head of Family
> > > 10 - Condition as to Marriage
> > > 11-12 - Age last birthday: males; females
> > > 13 - PROFESSION OR OCCUPATION
> > > 14 - Employer, worker or Own account
> > > 15 - If working at home
> > > 16 - WHERE BORN
> > > 17 - If (1) Deaf and Dumb; (2) Blind; (3) Lunatic; (4) Imbecile,
> > > feeble-minded
> > >
> >For my own purposes, I
> > > will put into a table in Word as this can be rearranged alphabetically
> > > surname or other, in
> > > any of the columns, offering a greater range to the way the census can
> > > analysed. It's important that people put the surname first, to allow
> > > sorting, and use a common wording - eg ag.lab or aglab or Ag. labourer
> > > whatever you decide. Multiple identical entries like the birthplace,
> > > is the same, can be done at the end of each page, by typing once and
> > > just moving down a column and pressing the F4 key. Once the parish is
> > > completed, people could then see any others of the same surname in the
> > > parish or neighbouring parishes.
> >As I said earlier, how can transcribers be sure that the
> > > material will not be taken by a commercial site and sold?
> > > I am perfectly happy to help any genuine genealogist freely, but I
> > > agree with work done by other people's hard work being sold for
> > > else's financial gain. The trouble with the web is that copyright is
> > > enforce. There are ways of providing information
> > > via passwords or some kind of regulated entry.
> > >
> >The material from an individual entry is still worth
> > > using, but since you have a lot of people writing to Rootsweb aching
> > > transcribing, it is also worth finding out where they can buy
> > > parish census. I seem to have drawn a blank on the libraries, although
> > > think Colchester Central library might do it, and am awaiting reply
> > > as to whether they do this. Either way, someone has to pay 30p or so
> > > page plus postage, so you'll have to leave that to individuals to
> > > ERO. (they'll wonder what's hit them!). You also need to remind people
> > > take care of accuracy and recheck their work before posting to the
> > >
> > Jacky
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