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From: "Harold C. Greenwood" <>
Subject: Re: Where is Friends?
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:38:52 +0100
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You were correct with your first guess, Ed, it does mean Quakers,
as in Society of Friends.
I can supply a little more information on those four Jay marriages,
extracted from the Essex Quaker Digest:-
Rose JAY of Wakes Colne, Essex, married John PATTRICK of Wakes Colne
at Earls Colne on 19th 1mo. 1680
Samuel JAY, Butcher of Headingham Sible, Essex, married Susana LONDON
of White Colne, daughter of Thomas LONDON, at Earls Colne
on 1st 1mo. 1681
Mary JAY, Singlewoman, married Edward RUSSELLS, Singleman,
on 14th 10mo. 1755 [Colchester Monthly Meeting]
Frances JAY of Boreham, Essex, daughter of Stephen & Eliza JAY
of Chelmsford, married William FRANCIS, Carpenter, of Boreham,
Essex, at Witham 19th 11mo. 1761 [Witham Monthly Meeting]
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 at 09:52:12 -0700, Ed Jay wrote:
> Hello Essex 1000++
> With the much appreciated help of Brian Parsons & "Check Essex Marriages
> at: http://www.tiptree.freeserve.co.uk/Boyds/Boydsindex.htm New entries added
> all the time!!" I now have new information about several JAY marriages.
> I can identify the Essex locations given for all the marriages listed,
> except for the one which is given for the four marriages below.
> I have not been able to find the location described as "Friends".
> Year Names Location
> 1680 Rose JAY John PATTRICK Friends
> 1681 Samuel JAY Susannah LONDON Friends
> 1755 Mary JAY Edward RUSSELL Friends
> 1761 Frances JAY William FRANCIS Friends
> Brian says that "Friends" has come up on a number of occasions
> for other names he has looked up, and always assumed it was a
> place, although one of the few of which he also was not familiar
> I had thought it might be a reference to marriages of Quakers
> or those of another faith. However, since, apparently, Boyd
> only dealt with marriages in the C of E, it is not known how
> he would come across a Quaker marriage unless it had been
> entered in a Parish Record of a C of E church. If that was the
> case, why didn't Boyd put the actual place of the marriage?
> Does anyone know if there was a location called "Friends"?
> Or would the word have been used a substitution for a
> marriage location for some reason?
> Ed, e-mail:
> Vancouver Island, Canada;
> Trying to fill the gaps in the story of the Essex JAYs in
> the Belchamps, Yeldhams, Clares, Gestingthorpe,
> Castle Hedingham, Halstead & vicinity