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From: "Norman Lee" <>
Subject: STACE and HAWKES
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:45:11 +0100


Dear Listers

I am posting these names again in the hope that some who have not seen them
might be able to tell me something about them. From these, I exclude the
kind people who have already replied and tried to help. For those who have
not read the circumstances, I will reiterate.

There is a family story that our name changed from STACE to HAWKES. There is
no doubt at all about the HAWKES name but the change seemed a little far
fetched until we discovered that our great great grandfather had STACE as
one of his christian names. Here I should probably mention that part of the
story involved the ownership of three Essex villages, names unknown.

Great great grandfather was born when his parents, Richard and Catherine
HAWKES, resided at Kingsland Road, Haggerston, Shoreditch, in 1831. The
register entry stated that his parents were married but there was no
apparent entry in the same register for their marriage. If the change of
name from STACE to HAWKES occurred at the marriage of Richard and Catherine,
then her maiden name should be Catherine STACE.

As the family later travelled further into London, I have looked at the 1851
Census for a number of the registration districts covering most of the later
places where they were to be found with no success so far. If you travel out
from Kingsland Road a day's journey by horse and cart which should be about
30 miles, you come to Epping. So my question is, does anyone know of a
Catherine STACE born around 1800-1810 and a Richard HAWKES of similar dates,
possibly around the Epping area? Alternatively, it is possible that HAWKES
is an adopted name and that Richard may also have been a STACE - perhaps a
first cousin?

As far as the 1851 Census is concerned, I realise that Richard and Catherine
may have died by that time, moved back to Essex, or gone somewhere else
completely unknown. But it is worth a try.

Audrey Lee (Stockport UK)

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