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Subject: SAPSFORD, DEAL, TURNIDGE
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 20:09:28 -0500
I am a new subscriber to the list and have a particular interest in both
the Deal and Sapsford family lines. Although I have been "playing" with
this for years, I am now retired - will be staying in Harlow Common for
the months of July, August and September - and plan to do some "serious"
research during the summer.
I am George Sapsford formerly of Hadleigh (Essex) but now living in
Florida USA. I have succeeded in tracing my fathers lineage only as far
back as my grandfather (George Charles Sapsford born c 1844 who was
married to Caroline Elzabeth Franklin in Aug 1864 in Limehouse). In
1864 Limehouse was in Middlesex, but is now identified with London.
My great grandfather was James Sapsford but that's all I know about him,
although there is a suggestion that he was born in either Dunmow or
Hatfield Broad Oak. Hopefully I can narrow this down with some
My wife is Sheila Deal born in Leigh and daughter of Phillip Ronald Deal
(aka "Doolip") who owned and operated a shrimp boat in the late 40's to
We (Sheila and I, with considerable help from Carole Pavitt of
Chelmsford), have traced this part of the Deal line through Phillip
Ronald (1914), Philip Henry (1889), John Joseph (1855), Joseph (c. 1832)
and James (c. 1810).
John Joseph (1855) was named at birth as "Joseph", was baptized as "John
Joseph" and was married as "John Joseph". At his second marriage he
identified his father (Joseph) as "John Joseph" also. Confused? So am
I! This is where Carole Pavitt has really helped us and I do hope that
she subscribes to this list!
Joseph was,we believe, the "Churchy" of Leigh legendb but, contrary to
the legend we now believe that his father (said to be unknown) was James
and that James was living in (or near) Sible Hedingham when Joseph was
baptised in 1832. (Again thanks to Carole Pavitt!)
I have much more information on the Deal line and will respond to
In response to a request for help on the Turnidge line, I just wish to
say that about 1952 my sister was very friendly with a Pam Turnidge of
Glendale Gardens, Leigh but has since lost touch with her. Perhaps
someone knows of her whereabouts? she would be about 68 years old I
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