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From: "GEORGE ENGLISH" <>
Subject: Re: [EOLFHS-MEMBERS] WW1
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:44:46 -0000
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Hi April

There were 2 big 'days' in the Battle of the Somme. On the first day, 1 July
1916, the British suffered 60,000 casualties, including 20,000 dead - the
bloodiest day in the history of the British Army. The final act was played
out between 13 and 18 November - my grandfather being killed on 13 November.
There are many websites such as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme.

The CWGC site is normally very good at finding people, though you may have
to play around with initials. It sounds as though Karen can help you with
this.

Kind regards

George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Cook" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [EOLFHS-MEMBERS] WW1

> Dear April
>
> I've got the CD Rom Soldiers Died in the Great War, and I'm happy to do a
> search if you give me your grandfather's full name and anything else that
> might identify the right chap, ie place of birth, date of birth.
>
> Best wishes, Karen
> PS I won't be around for a couple of weeks after today.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "April Ashton" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [EOLFHS-MEMBERS] WW1
>
>
>> Dear George
>>
>> Thank you for all this info - it is very helpful - I know that my
>> grandfather was in France in 1916 - and that he died. Do you have the
>> month that your grandfather died on the Somme? I am unaware whether
>> there were other battles going on in France at this time and the scale
>> of casualties, so have been looking for a needle in a haystack, as I
>> have been unable to positively identify him from the CWGC site or War
>> Medals on the N/A site.
>>
>> The Chelmsford Museum is at present closed.
>>
>> April
>>
>> On 1011DecDec20082008, at 18:06, GEORGE ENGLISH wrote:
>>
>>> Dear April
>>>
>>> My grandfather, Frederick Garnet English, was in the Essex Regiment
>>> and was killed on the Somme in 1916, and is listed on the plaque.
>>>
>>> The Essex Regiment is now part of the Royal Anglian Regiment in
>>> Warley, Essex Tel: 01277 213051; there is also a Memorial there. My
>>> contact at the Museum in Chelmsford 4 years ago was Ian Hook
>>> () Tel: 01245 615100; incredibly
>>> knowledgeable and helpful as many such people are.
>>>
>>> There is a regimental history 'ESSEX UNITS IN THE WAR 1914-1919' Vol 6
>>> by John Wm Burrows which includes the action my grandfather was killed
>>> in - very moving for me. This was part of an article I wrote about my
>>> grandfather in Cockney Ancestor 106.
>>>
>>> Something I suspect others may be able to add to is that the 13th
>>> Battalion was raised by the Mayor and County Borough of West Ham,
>>> largely from local men. After the war, Tate & Lyle and Lusty's (who
>>> made Lloydloom Furniture) employed many ex-13th Bn men, whose families
>>> were then bombed out, often more then once, during the Blitz in WWII!
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Colin Chamberlain" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [EOLFHS-MEMBERS] WW1
>>>
>>>
>>>> April,
>>>>
>>>> The Essex Regimental Museum in Chelmsford should be able to help.
>>>>
>>>> See the website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=6780
>>>>
>>>> I have visited and found them extremely helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Colin Chamberlain
>>>> In a cold and frosty Staffordshire
>>>>
>>>> 2008/11/28 April Ashton <>
>>>>
>>>>> There is an Essex Regiment Plaque (4 metal plates) inside All Saints
>>>>> Church, Church Street West Ham listing 260 men who died in WW1 - does
>>>>> anyone have access to the list of these names, tell me where I could
>>>>> find them or go about contacting someone who would know the names?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> April Wood Ashton

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