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From: Lorraine Taylor <>
Subject: Re: [B'ham] Warwickshire Ancestors Project
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 00:29:53 +1000
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Dear Mariene,

My cousin in England gave me the dates for Clement Dear and I have his
six siblings and most of their birth dates except for the Rev. William
who was the eldest.
I think my cousin has had to go to Church registers for quite a few
birth dates but he has not been able to find dates for the first
Richard Dear who married Sarah Goodman.

I think I need the census for Ventnor on the Isle of Wight for 1791 if
there was one as most of the Dear family were living there when the
1861 census was taken.

On Jeanagh'a recommendation, I looked through the Warwickshire
Ancestors Project at www.hunimex.com/warwick/w-a-p.html but there are
two sections with a Dear and a Goodman in them - nos. 3 and 4, but no
Christian names by which to identify them. No. 5 shows 18 Goodmans at
Hillmorton but no Sarah. There is another Goodman at Stockton. There
is also a Goodman in section 11 under Monumental Inscriptions - again
no first name.
On 31/07/2005, at 6:22 PM, Marlene wrote:

> Hi Lorraine
> Fraid you won't get a birth cert for 1811 as Civil Registration didn't
> begin until 1837. You may find a baptism entry at their local parish
> church or if you are lucky on the IGI.
> HOW do you know he was born 3rd April? Whatever the source does it
> give a clue as to their whereabouts at the time.? You may have to
> search the parish register (some are on film from the Latter Day
> Saints) to see if a parent is recorded.
> Happy hunting
> Marlene
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Taylor"
> <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Warwickshire Ancestors Project
>
>
>> Dear Bill,
>>
>> This is the right family,
>>
>> You have a query beside Francis May and I think it should be Fanny
>> Way - a girl born 13th August, 1855. The Way was the maiden name of
>> Clement's first wife who died some time before 1829 when Clement
>> married a second time, Louisa Chessell, whose children these are.
>> Clement Dear 1811-1899 did have a grocery business in the Isle of
>> Wight.
>>
>> I can't think why Clement Francis Dear, who was the eldest child of
>> Clement Dear one, is not on the census but he would have been 9 years
>> old at the time and may have been away visiting relatives. The 1861
>> census was taken before the youngest child, James Richard Dear was
>> born in 1871.
>>
>> What I need is a birth certificate of Clement Dear born 3rd April,
>> 1811 so that I can get his parents full names - that is if they have
>> been recorded.
>>
>> Much obliged for your help,
>>
>> Lorraine
>>
>> 01/07/05 at 6:00 p.m. EAST
>>
>>
>> On 31/07/2005, at 2:15 AM, Bill Burgoyne wrote:
>>
>>> Lorraine,
>>>
>>> This could be part of your DEAR family on the 1861 census. The only
>>> Clement DEAR on the Ancestry index.
>>> .Sending image off list.
>>>
>>> Clement DEAR, head, 50, Grocer employing 3 men, b Laverstock,
>>> Hampsire.
>>> Francis Sarah DEAR, wife, 44, b Portsmouth, Hampshire.
>>> Fanny? May DEAR, 6, b Ventnor,Isle of Wight,
>>> Maurice DEAR, 3, b Ventnor, Isle of Wight,
>>> Henry DEAR, 2, b Ventnor,Isle of Wight,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Taylor"
>>> <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 12:01 PM
>>> Subject: [B'ham] Warwickshire Ancestors Project
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Marlene,
>>>>
>>>> Have you got as far as Goodman in this project as yet?
>>>> I am looking for Sarah Goodman who married my great great great
>>>> great grandfather, Richard Dear for whom I have no dates but their
>>>> first child - Rev. William Dear must have been born 1804 or earlier
>>>> because their second child, James was born in 1805. Subsequent
>>>> siblings were Maurice, Richard Edward, Clement, Elizabeth and Henry
>>>> between 1805 and 1819.
>>>>
>>>> Lorraine.
>>>>
>>>> <>
>>>>
>>>> 30/07/05
>>>>
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