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From: "Charles Riley" <>
Subject: Re: [B'ham] Re: BirmingHam? Pronunciation...
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:57:11 +0100


Hi Pauline

I live close enough to Bicester (but that's probably irrelevant, since even
when I lived far enough away, I knew how it was pronounced). Anyway, an
ignorant work colleague pronounced it Bye-chester the other day...

Charles, Bucks
-----Original Message-----
From: Pauline Roberts <>
To:
<>
Date: 13 July 2003 21:08
Subject: Re: [B'ham] Re: BirmingHam? Pronunciation...


>The Thames IS the Tems, wherever you live in England, there is no 'TH',
just
>a 'T'.
>
>Incidentally, the lady I spoke about is someone known very well by my
>sister, not a stranger. Tamwoth is pronounced Tamoth by people in Tamworth
>(not by me) and where I live is Wilnecote, pronounced Wincutt. (I did live
>in Birmingham from 1947 to 1972)
>
>The Connecticut pronunciation - do you not refer to how Londoners speak,
>rather than Birmingham? - I have never heard it spoken like that.
>Incidentally my brother lived in Florida (Coral Springs) my sister (and my
>mother until January this year) lives in North Carolina, near Pinehurst.
>
>Pauline
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack and Doreen Polvere" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [B'ham] Re: BirmingHam? Pronunciation...
>
>
>> Don't laugh. What about Tamworth being pronounced Tamuth in Brum? The
>Thames River
>> (Tems in Brum), the is emphasis on "th" and "a" here in Connecticut
>(with a
>> silent "c"after the "e").We too have a Thames River. And if you have a
>problem
>> pronouncing "th" it becomes the Fames. Doreen, Ct., U.S.A.
>>
>> Pauline Roberts wrote:
>>
>> > Does this pronunciation come from Birming-Hm as opposed to
>Birmingham-HAm -
>> > and then us lazy lot call it Birming-um, dropping the H as is so often
>done?
>> >
>> > Reminds me of one of the times when I was in America (not showing off,
>my
>> > sister lives there), and in a restaurant we asked just what ingredients
>were
>> > in a particular dish. the owner (a lady) listed a few things and then
>> > proudly said 'and of course WOR-CES-TER-SHIRE sauce'. We almost
>collapsed
>> > laughing! (Did make me wonder how she would have pronounced Bicester)
>> >
>> > Pauline
>> > Tamworth, Staffs
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:38 PM
>> > Subject: [B'ham] Re: BirmingHam? Pronunciation...
>> >
>> > > Hey Robyn and all,
>> > > don't know if it's because both my parents are from
>> > > Brum, and I'm from nearby (Worcestershire), but everyone I
>> > > know pronounces Birmingham as "Birming-um". Stupid English
>> > > pronuciation, I know, but I suppose it's the same as us not
>> > > saying "War-wick" but "War-rick" instead. Letters just get
>> > > dropped. So I guess it means that lots of mistakes _were_
>> > > made on certs when it came to writing names (personal and
>> > > place) down on paper, especially if the person writing it
>> > > down had never heard the name before.
>> > >
>> > > Joss
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >Have no idea but my grandfather, when i was a kid, used to
>> > > say he came from,
>> > > >what i thought was birming-um. he missed the h. i always
>> > > thought he came
>> > > >from that place, never knew of a place called birming-Ham.
>> > > robyndehood.oz.
>> > >
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