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From: "Christine Ellis" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] John Brookes 1827 Gornal born
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:12:13 +1000
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As you probably know two marriage possibilities show up on FreeBMD - John
Brookes married Elizabeth Jeffries/Jeffreys in the June qtr of 1850 Dudley
registration district 18 475 and another is John Brookes married either
Elizabeth Child or Elizabeth Duckhouse 1848 June qtr Wolverhampton 17 346
but there are three John Brook/es born about the same time (One listed in
1861 with his family living with widowed Father Thomas but in 1871 are in

1841 census Sedgley entries show :
1) John aged 14 Bricklayer with family
Joseph 35 Bricklayer Ester 35 Mary 16 William 10 Joseph 7 David 2

2) John 13 Labourer with Father John 45 Bricklayer Hannah 44 Joseph 16
Elizabeth 14 Susannah Jane 12 Ellen 8 Enock 4

3) John 12 with the already mentioned Thomas as per 1861 census.

This appears to be the couple you found in 1881 so unless another Brook/es
researcher can help you or the relationship with Richard and Maria Pye
investigated, it looks as if you will need a Birth certificate of one of
the children to confirm the maiden name of Elizabeth and then the
appropriate marriage certificate to confirm the father of your John.

1851 census entry : Longton Staffordshire
with the household of Richard and Maria Pye and family including
stepdaughter Elizabeth Barker (Richard Pye married Maria Barker in 1845 -
her birthplace is listed variously as Broseley/Madeley)
John Brooks 24 Bricklayer listed as brother in law
Elizabeth 23 listed as sister
John 11 months Born Longton

1861 census entry : Longton Staffordshire
John Brooks 34 Bricklayer
Elizth Brooks 33
John Brooks 11
Thos Brooks 8
Joseph Brooks 4
William Brooks 1

1871 census entry: Attercliffe Yorkshire
John Brooks 43 Bricklayer
Elizabeth Brooks 41
John Brooks 21
Thomas Brooks 18
William Hy Brooks 12
George R Brooks 9
Elizabeth Brooks 6
James Wood 21
James Colley 21

Hope that helps a little - good luck in sorting your family out.

Christine E.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Stephen Pain
Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: [ENG-STS-SEDGLEY] John Brookes 1827 Gornal born

Can anyone help me with the Brookes connections of this family?
In the 1881 census I came across a John Brookes born in Gornal (1827)
married to Elizabeth from Borosley Shropshire (1829) they have children
Emma, George, James, Elizabeth, John.
They lived at 10 Kenneth St. Rotherham, Yorks.


yours as always Stephen Pain

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