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From: "Alwynne Mackie" <>
Subject: Re: [PETERBRO] Robert MILLER, Gentleman Will - lots of names
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:33:51 +1100
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Hello John.
I am wondering if your John Turnel is in fact a John Turnel in my family.
I have a marriage between John Turnel and Elizabeth Conworth at St John the
Baptist, Peterborough, on 21 Feb 1797. The Conworths owned land in the
Dogsthorpe area, and both families also owned land in Eastfield/Newark. This
latter land has recently been developed for housing and runs off Gildenburgh
Avcenue in Peterborough, and is now called Conworth Close.
I also have a Robert Turnel who married Hannah Conworth, widow, at Holbeach,
Lincs, on 24 Sept 1811. I am yet to discover which Conworth was Hannah's
first husband.
I don't have any children for the marriage of John to Elizabeth Conworth,
but it may well be that they had a daughter Ann, that being a common name in
the family.
If you have any information that might help, I would be delighted to hear.
Cheers,
Alwynne

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bland" <>
To: <>; <>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: [PETERBRO] Robert MILLER, Gentleman Will - lots of names


> Hello Listers,
>
>
>
> I have been looking at the lengthy Will of Robert MILLER, Gentleman of
> Northamptonshire PRO 11/1426 dated 20 March 1804. It is very much a
> coincidence that I should read it for the first time exactly 204 years
> later! This Will and the Will of John TURNEL The Elder Farmer of
> Eastfield,
> Peterborough PRO 11/1605 dated 5 September 1805 have a number of common
> bequests, and the Turnel Will indicating one to his daughter Ann WOOLLEY,
> Widow of John Woolley is sufficient for me to conclude that John Turnel
> the
> Elder was my GGGGG Grandfather, and that Robert Miller was his Brother in
> Law. The IGI records a marriage between John Turnell and Anne Miller on 19
> December 1753 at St Michaels, Stamford, Lincolnshire. Obviously this
> marriage needs confirming.
>
>
>
> Given that both Wills mention the same names the connection is obvious, so
> I
> am listing them here in case anyone recognises any of them.
>
>
>
> The MILLER Will, mentions bequests to his Wife Mary, Son Robert and
> Daughter
> Elizabeth, Brothers Jonathan MILLER Gentleman of Market Deeping, George
> MILLER Gentleman of Peterborough, Friends Matthew WILKINSON, Gentleman of
> Peterborough and William CRISP of Peterborough, and Kinsmen and Kinswomen
> (it is unfortunate that he did not choose to list the full relationships!)
> Ann WOOLLEY, Susannah CUE, John TURNELL the Younger, Mary BROOKSOP, the
> Wife
> of Samuel BROOKSOP, John YOUDD the Elder of Market Deeping, Mary YOUDD,
> Ann
> YOUDD, Robert YOUDD, George YOUDD, Susannah ARNOLD the Wife of John ARNOLD
> of Swaford, Lincolnshire, and John Kitchen MILLER, Sister Ann TURNELL of
> Eastfield, Peterborough, Sister Mary YOUDD of Potton Bedfordshire, Cousin
> Thomas MILLER of Wisbech and Nephew John TURNELL the Younger.
>
>
>
> The TURNEL Will indicates that he had land at Eastfield, Newark and
> Dogsthorpe and gives bequests to his Wife Ann TURNELL, Son John TURNELL
> the
> Younger, Daughters Ann WOLLEY, Widow of John WOOLLEY, Susannah CUE Widow
> of
> John CUE and Mark BROOKSOP the Wife of Samuel BROOKSOP, Grandchildren John
> WOOLLEY, Jane SMITH the Wife of John SMITH, Mary WOOLLEY, Robert WOOLLEY,
> William WOOLLEY, George WOOLLEY, the children of Ann WOOLLEY,
> Grandchildren
> John CUE, William CUE, Mary PEARSON or PARRY the Wife of blankspace PARSON
> or PARRY (I think!), Jonathan CUE the children of Susannah CUE.
>
>
>
> Legacies in both Wills were substantial for the day, the MILLER ones
> particularly large - annuities from invested sums measured in thousands of
> pounds. Furthermore with Robert MILLER's death being noted in The
> Gentleman's Magazine, I am hopeful that he left a good paper trail. Has
> anyone come across him, his brother Jonathan or any of the other names
> mentioned? I already have pieced together the family of Ann WOOLLEY and
> have
> thus verified that she was Widowed in 1801. These Wills take me back a
> Generation and pieces together a family to such an extent that I only need
> to find where they were all born, married and buried! Ann WOOLLEY nee
> Turnell was born at Market Deeping, and all her sons were Carpenters
> (reasonably wealthy ones!) so I suspect that MILLER's were a wealthy
> Farming
> Family that straddled the Soke of Peterborough/Lincolnshire border. Hence
> me
> posting on both the Peterborough and Lincolnshire lists.
>
>
>
> A comment on the CUE name. A possible variation appears in later WOOLLEY
> generations as a forename CULY. Has anyone seen these as a variation of
> one
> name?
>
>
>
> It has to be said that it would have proven a much harder task to locate
> these Wills were it not for the work of the London Branch of the
> Lincolnshire Family History Society in producing the recently released
> Death
> Duties Register Indexes 1796-1821 extracting any testators and
> beneficiaries
> with Lincolnshire connections and where one was found extracting all
> mentioned testator and beneficiaries wherever they may have lived, so this
> resource should be considered by anyone researching families that may have
> cross boarder connections.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> John R G Bland
>
> Spalding
>
>
>
>
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