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From: "Bellringer" <>
Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] null and void...?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:09:30 +1300
References: <GEEKLGIBGAJPMEOBLNGAMEOPDDAA.wilsonro@manx.net>


Hi Kathleen,

Many thanks for your very kind response, with my apologies also to the
List, for
having not mentioned that the area in Lancashire, where the marriage took
place
was in Salford, ENGLAND.

Kind regards,
Ted.

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wilsons" <>
To: "Bellringer" <>; <>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:58 AM
Subject: RE: [ENG-MAN] null and void...?


>
> Ted
>
> You don't say whether the marriage took place in England or the Isle of
Man.
> I think I am correct in saying that any marriages which take place on the
> Isle of Man are not recorded in the GRO indexes. The Isle of Man has a
> separate legal and registration system from England.
>
> Kathleen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bellringer [mailto:]
> Sent: 17 March 2004 04:47
> To:
> Subject: [ENG-MAN] null and void...?
>
>
> >From :
>
> Re : GRO Index / BMD ... ?
>
> Date : Tuesday, 17th. 2004
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I have received a modern day hand written copy of a Marriage certificate
> which took place in Lancashire,
> in September, 1877. but the maiden name of the Bride, is not that which
> appears on the birth certificates
> of her children. The first child was born on the Isle of Man, September,
> 1878. and her three other
> children were all born in Openshaw, Lancashire. The birth of her last
child
> was in May, 1885.
>
> The GRO marriage Index, gives the same maiden name ( of Manx origin) as
that
> which appears on all her
> childrens birth certificates. But according to the Local Registry Office,
> it is claimed in the year 2003 that
> the Deputy Registrar, is confident that her maiden name isn't what I,
> and a professional Manchester
> researcher requested.
>
> Therefore, I was sent an inappropriate marriage certificate issued
contrary
> to the GRO Index / BMD
> which as a result of a Rescissory action, taken by the Local Registrar,
has
> now become a subject of
> total discrepancy which consequently is implying that the maiden name on
> the Isle of Man, and the
> Openshaw, birth certificates are null and void.
>
> I have since received a photocopy of the original marriage certificate and
> its perfectly clear to see that the
> Vicar's handwriting leaves no doubt whatsoever as to the brides correct
> name, as recorded by the GRO index,
> which therefore rules out any theory suggesting the Vicar, at the time
could
> have been deaf, and thus wrote
> down what he thought he heard, or that the bride, may have been so
> deferential that she would say that the
> entry was wrong. Or one who could read what was written and therefore
> couldn't object. The fact is that
> although the Bride's mark on the certificate appears as a cross her
husband,
> ( my Gt.Grandfather ) could read
> and write and would have been quite aware that her maiden name was
CRELLIN,
> and not CULLIN.
>
> I would be grateful if someone could please advise what can be done to
> correct this seemingly preposterous
> and controversial attitude pertaining to certification information.
>
> Kind regards to all.
> Ted.
>
> ______________________________

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