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From: Eve <>
Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Szehner
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:24:54 -0400
Your too sweet Charles! Don't you think so Alice :-)
On 3/30/07, charles sehner <> wrote:
> Eve & Alice,
> I believe it would be wise, to Read and Heed this good advise, from these
> two lovely ladies who took their time to respond on this topic. It's easy
> get caught up in wishful thinking. A wake-up call is sometime needed to
> back on track. Your example's tell it all.
> Have a wonderful day,
> Charles S
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eve" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Fw: Szehner
> >I second that!
> > Here is what I consider a good example of census errors.
> > I am inclined to think that this was done as a practical joke by one of
> > the
> > teenage sons still living at home. Parents only spoke Hungarian.
> > Father and head of households name listed as "Marvin" actually
> > Oldest daughter listed as "Irvin" - actually Irene, also listed as
> > in the coal mine, you can see where daughter was written then erased and
> > son
> > wrote down.
> > Another daughter listed as "Goldstein" and actually was Goldie, same
> > with erasing daughter and putting son down. We have a pretty good idea
> > who
> > the culprit was in this, but he's no longer around to defend his
> self. I
> > thought it rather funny that the only names changed were the older
> > sister's
> > - and who would a bratty little brother mess with. I guess the sisters
> > won
> > out in the end - they outlived him and are still going strong.
> > A little census humor - now try to imagine how hard it was to find this
> > record!
> > Eve
> > On 3/30/07, <> wrote:
> >> Charles,
> >> I've been reading your dialogue with Alex and thought I would pass on a
> >> few
> >> bits of 'wisdom' gleaned from my husband and my (80 years combined)
> >> research
> >> work in genealogy. Perhaps this will help you in your future work.
> >> When using internet information provided by others (such as One World
> >> Tree)
> >> to Ancestry.com, it is wise to question the validity until you have
> >> proof to verify what you find. There are many mistakes listed as fact
> >> other
> >> people who do not have accurate information (my own grandparents are
> >> listed with
> >> incorrect data by some researcher who thought they had the correct info
> >> on
> >> them and their children but in reality they have combined children and
> >> parents
> >> from two different generations!); it does, however, provide you a point
> >> of
> >> reference to begin further research.
> >> Regarding the validity of information provided on US Census forms:
> >> takers were not required to talk to the head of the household.
> >> Consequently,
> >> information was often provided by anyone who answered the door, in some
> >> cases even
> >> field hands not related to the family, so the data found on the forms
> >> not
> >> always 100% reliable. Census takers also had difficulty understanding
> >> some
> >> people they interviewed; thus we find strange versions of a person's
> >> or
> >> where they were from. Also, these people (especially in the earlier
> >> years)
> >> received very little training and were under the pressure of completing
> >> their census
> >> area in a given time frame so short-cuts were taken as in the case of
> >> one
> >> being at home so the neighbor provided the information recorded on the
> >> form.
> >> And finally, you are more apt to find a more specific location given
> >> the
> >> birthplace in the census of the 1800s; in the 1900s more generic place
> >> names were
> >> often used, such as "Austria" even for those who lived in Hungary.
> >> As you can see from these few examples, the US Census is an important
> >> source
> >> of information to use in guiding you forward in your research, but it
> >> important to be careful when interpreting what you find, even if it is
> >> a photocop
> >> y of the original form. You may consider these as valid documents, but
> >> not
> >> always accurate.
> >> Regards,
> >> Alice in Michigan
> >> "Anneliese Connections"
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