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From: "charles sehner" <>
Subject: Re: [DVHH] Szehner Family
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:47:01 -0400
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A big thanks to Jody & Karen for sharing this great information.
I am going to go back and check all my manifest's for these notations.
This shows how one small question can open new doors in our research.
I am also impressed at the amount of info on the dvhh site, I have to learn
how to navigate it better.
Charles S

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Preston" <>
To: "Mercydorf" <>
Cc: "charles sehner" <>;
<>; "Alex Leeb" <>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [DVHH] Szehner Family


> The notation "Nov 28, 1944" Chicago could be a notation about
> naturalization. It looks like there is also a hand-written date 09 08
> 1944. The earlier date could be an application date and the later
> stamped date would be the date that person was naturalized in Chicago.
> After 1906, you had to prove that you entered the country lawfully, and
> this was usually verified by the passenger manifest for entry into the
> US. The dates on a manifest can also refer to an application for a visa.
>
> The "S.J." is actually "S.I.", which stands for Special Inquiry, and
> means the immigrant was to be held for a hearing with the Board of
> Inquiry. Beginning in 1903, there was a Record of Detained Aliens list
> and/or Records of Aliens held for Special inquiry, at the end of the
> passenger list, which will give more info, and state when the immigrant
> was admitted or deported.
>
> There is an excellent discussion of the manifest markings and their
> meanings on the JewishGen website. Here is the link:
>
> www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Manifests/
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> --Karen
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2007, at 8:26 AM, Mercydorf wrote:
>
>> Noticed on the manifest, the entry for Johann Hem, it has stamped Nov
>> 28, 1944 and written beside it "Chicago." I wonder what that means and
>> why it is on this 1903 manifest. I don't think I've ever seen this
>> before.
>>
>> Jody
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mercydorf
>> To: charles sehner ; ; Alex Leeb
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DVHH] Szehner Family
>>
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>>> From the "Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945" Records at
>>> Ancestry.com.
>> I have temporarily posted the manifest:
>> http://www.dvhh.org/cache/temporary/Szehner-Elisabeth-1903.jpg
>>
>> Out to the side of the names is "SJ" - it's not shown on the below
>> detention list, maybe someone can explain what "SJ" means.
>>
>> "Alien Detention - Causes (Grounds) for Exclusion Noted on BSI (Board
>> of Special Inquiry) Lists, ca. 1903-1924":
>> http://www.dvhh.org/finding-aids/immigration/alien-detention.htm
>>
>> Jody
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: charles sehner
>> To: Mercydorf ; ; Alex Leeb
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: Szehner Family
>>
>>
>> Jody,
>> In your post, March 18 @ 3:26pm below you noted Elizabeth SZEHNER
>> was....
>> "Traveling w/ Maria Kern (Hem?) 24, child Elisabeth 8?, Johann ?;"
>>
>> I tried to find this information with no luck. Can you tell me where
>> you
>> found this.
>> Charles S
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mercydorf
>> To: charles sehner ; ; Alex
>> Leeb
>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Szehner Family
>>
>>
>> Charles,
>> Well then, did you know Stephen and his family once lived in
>> Elberta,
>> Alabama?
>> And there is a Pauline Szehner who died there also in 1919, is that
>> Franz,
>> 2nd wife?
>> About Elberta, AL, and about Stephen's WW1 draft registration card
>> information:
>> http://www.dvhh.org/finding-aids/elberta.htm
>>
>> In case you don't have this info:
>> Wisconsin State Censuses, 1895 and 1905 > 1 Jun 1905 > Milwaukee >
>> Cudahy >
>> 18 - Roll: CSUSAWI1905_35.
>> Frank age 42, widower. From Austria. Sons: Frank 15, Charles 12,
>> Willie 10.
>>
>> Jody
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: charles sehner
>> To: Mercydorf ;
>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 6:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: Szehner Family
>>
>>
>> Jody,
>>
>> You are so good at this.Yes Franz & Elizabeth are my grand parents.
>> Karl 8
>> (charles), is my father. They setteled in Cudahy,WI and worked as
>> butchers
>> and sausage makers for Cudahy Bros. Packing House.
>>
>> I have most of this information, but not all. Such as Traveling w/
>> Maria
>> Kern (Hem?) 24, child Elisabeth 8?, Johann ?; (I don't know of
>> them.)
>>
>> There was a Johann Szehner, age 27 to US, May 1903, est YOB 1876,
>> Departed
>> Bremen, Germany to Port Baltimore, ship Frankfurt, last res:
>> Tamasfalva.
>> Friends name Mathias Tobar.
>> (Ancestry.com Baltimore Passenger List 1892-1948)
>>
>> Not sure who Johann is, but I'm pretty sure we are connected. I also
>> remember seeing name TOBAR or TABOR somewhere.
>>
>> Pauline was my gf Franz second wife, Della was a daughter
>>
>> Thank you so much for your help,
>> Charles S
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mercydorf
>> To: charles sehner ;
>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 3:26 PM
>> Subject: Szehner Family
>>
>> Charles,
>> Is the (below) passenger record, your family? If so, they came into
>> the Port
>> of Philadelphia. And if so, I also found a Frank (a butcher) and
>> wife
>> Pauline with the same children, plus a daughter Pauline in the 1910
>> US
>> census (Cudahy Ward 3, Milwaukee, Wisconsin). Is Pauline his second
>> wife?:
>>
>> Port of Philadelphia
>> Name: Elisabeth Szehner
>> Arrival Date: 3 Sep 1903
>> Age: 37 Years - Est birth: 1866
>> Ethnic Background: German
>> Last Residence: Buzias, Hungary
>> Children: Franz 11; Karl 8; Wilhelm 6;
>> Traveling w/ Maria Kern (Hem?) 24, child Elisabeth 8?, Johann ?;
>> (brother in law) Alajos Hinger 38
>> All from Buzias, going to Cudahy, WS to join Franz Szehner.
>> Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany - Ship Name: Willehad
>> Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
>> Microfilm Roll Number: T840_44
>>
>> Jody
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: charles sehner
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:19 PM
>> Subject: [DVHH] Wosar, Austria
>>
>> RE: Wosar
>> In viewing my fathers Declaration of Intention, and Oath of
>> Allegiance filed
>> May 9, 1924 at his age of 21 he stated the following.
>>
>> Place of birth: Wosar, Austria in 1895
>> Has anyone on the list ever heard of Wosar, Austria ?
>>
>> Other information on the documents such as ports of departure and
>> arrival,
>> dates in 1903 and ship name he stated correctly. So I am wondering
>> about
>> this place he called Wosar.
>>
>> If I read it right it appears he signed the document in front of The
>> Clerk
>> of said Court in 1917, but the stamped File Date is in 1924. ??
>>
>> Passenger list, and other family records suggest he came from
>> Busiasch,
>> Hungary.
>> Can anyone shed a light on Wosar?
>>
>> Charles S
>>
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