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From: ajleeb <>
Subject: Re: [DVHH] BAUTZ KIRSCHNER TIMISOARA KOVACSI
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:08:02 -0700
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Linda.

I forgot to mention, in 1999, there was a Aurel Paut (Paut Romanian ) =
Pautz in German, living in Temeswar.
Maybe Ana, might know something about the name Pautz.
Ana, probable speaks, German, Romanian and Hungarian.

Alex..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda McKenna" <>
To: "ajleeb" <>; "Mercydorf" <>;
<>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [DVHH] BAUTZ KIRSCHNER TIMISOARA KOVACSI


> Thank you Alex, this is quite interesting. I will try to contact this
> Ana.
> What might be my best recourse. I do not know German. Or would she now
> speak Romanian?
> Linda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ajleeb" <>
> To: "Mercydorf" <>; "Linda McKenna"
> <>; <>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [DVHH] BAUTZ KIRSCHNER TIMISOARA KOVACSI
>
>
>> Linda;
>>
>> Lydia Kirschnr, (nee Nyagrus) b. 24.19.1907, Temeswar, died in camp, in
>> Russia, between 1945-1950.
>> In 1982- a Ioan Kirschner, lived in Temeswar.
>> in 1999- a Valeria Kirschner lived in Temeswar. and a Ana Kirschner.
>> 2006- a Ana Kirschner lives in Temeswar.
>>
>> Alex.
>> www.dvhh.org/
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mercydorf" <>
>> To: "Linda McKenna" <>;
>> <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DVHH] BAUTZ KIRSCHNER TIMISOARA KOVACSI
>>
>>
>> Hi Linda,
>>
>> I'm not aware if a Temeschburg Family book exist. Genealogical research
> in
>> Temeswar/Temesvar/Temeschburg is very difficult, because the town had 6
>> quarters (what I call suburbs) Fabrikstadt, Elisabetstadt, Josefstadt,
>> Franzstadt, Fratelia, Freidorf; and each quarter had their own Roman
>> Catholic parish. And keep in mind, in 1900 there were nearly 60,000
>> inhabitants. With Temeschburg being the largest town in Banat, it was
> like
>> a metropolitan city for transitional residents. Although there were many
>> families who were rooted there for over a hundred years, there were also
>> many people moving around each year. To give you an idea how difficult it
> is
>> to research in the Temeswar area, consider the following example I
> received
>> and posted on the Fratelia site.
>>
>> The Church Book of Fratelia is beginning about 1932, the entries before
> then
>> were made in Elisabethin / Elisabetstadt, there they started in 1919, and
>> the years before 1919, the habitants of Fratelia had to go to Freidorf,
> but
>> a lot of them didn't want to because the way was longer to travel than to
> go
>> to Josefin. The informant goes on to say, "That was perhaps the reason,
> why
>> I now found the birth of my grandmother and her siblings in Josefin /
>> Josefstadt (from 1895 to 1905), although the birth certificate said, they
>> lived in Tesöld (Fratelia). But with this new knowledge I luckily found
> the
>> baptism of my father (born in 1917 in Fratelia) in Freidorf! I also was
>> searching for a very long time to find the death record of my grandmother
>> and found her in the index of Freidorf!" [A.Lorenz -17 Jul 2006]
>>
>> This same scenario could pertain to any of the suburbs of Temeswar.....
>> Jody
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Linda McKenna
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:12 AM
>> Subject: [DVHH] BAUTZ KIRSCHNER TIMISOARA KOVACSI
>>
>>
>> I have met online with another "new" cousin. His great grandmother was
>> sister to my grandfather. He had a 'family history' written by his
> mother.
>> Many things coincided with family lore that I had. Since they lived in
>> different states and had only occasional visits, I'm thinking this may
>> add
>> to the plausibility of these stories.
>> I know from family and the ship manifests that they emigrated from
>> and listed Kovacsi (Temeskovacsi) as birthplace. although his family
>> history refers to Timisoara as where Fred and Emilie settled after
> marriage.
>> so perhaps I might find Friedrich BAUTZ and his wife Emilie Kirschner
> there.
>> Friedrich died 1898. no birth date known although his family info
> said
>> Alsace-Lorraine. Emilie b 1864, d 1948.
>> I know she was still in Kovasci/Covacsi in 1915. daughter Mary b.
>> 1884, Kovacsi
>>
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE TIMISOARA BOOK/INFO TO CHECK OUT THESE NAMES/DATES.
>>
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Linda Bautz McKenna
>>
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