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From: tuulen <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Surname Sampling
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:47:58 -0400
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Hi Colin and Sandy,

Surnames can be entirely misleading. And I offer a much longer and more
detailed explanation, on request.

Best regards,

Doug


On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Sandy Paterson <
> wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> I'm not sure how far he's got, but I know he finished writing a book
> towards
> the end of last year, and his plan was to turn his attention to the
> Mid-Argyllshire group, possibly starting a separate project just for them
> (they are currently in the McCain project). One interesting surname that
> fits very well into the MA group is a McAlpin. That could set a cat amongst
> the pidgeons.
>
> Sandy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Colin Ferguson
> Sent: 11 April 2012 15:07
> To:
> Subject: Re: [R-M222] Surname Sampling
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> It took me a while to figure how they decided which dots in Figure 2 to
> include in the TMRCA computation. The selection process uses a "pathway of
> increasing frequency". One advantage to a small sample size is you can see
> in the diagram why about 50% of the haplotypes are not included in the
> TMRCA
> computation. The resultant TMRCA=1730 +/-
> 670 for what is a subset of R-M222 is hard to reconcile against the
> TMRCA=1010 +/- 390 of R-M222 in Figure 1B.
>
> >Irish origin in fact originated in Scotland
> That's interesting. Did Barra McCain happen to examine those who thought
> they were of Scottish origin that in fact originated in Ireland? My dad
> fell
> in that category and I think it was rooted in our ancestors being Irish
> immigrants in colonial Australia where calling one self a Scot was perhaps
> fashionable but more likely a way to avoid discrimination.
>
> Cheers,
> Colin
> R1b1c7 Research and Links:
>
> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/
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