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From: Susan Hedeen <>
Subject: [R-M222] Analysis
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:20:39 -0500


I believe this posted below may be the thread that John referred to.
I think the link to Anatole's pdf on the Irish clades is hung up in the
spam folder which John may have to deal with. Thank you Brian
for finding this and sending it on.
Hopefully someone will be able to figure out how to post the link of the
Irish clades paper to the board so that anyone who is interested can
simply link up and read it as it really is too lengthy to post the paper
on list. Susan

From: mikewww7 <mwwdna@...>
Subject: [RL21Project] New TMRCA's from Anatole Klyosov - L21 subclades
To:
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:51 PM

Anatole Klosov ( http://aklyosov.home.comcast.net/~aklyosov/
<http://aklyosov.home.comcast.net/%7Eaklyosov/>; ) has submitted a paper
that is published in the June "Proceedings of the Russian Academy of DNA
Geneaology". He titled the paper "Irish Haplotypes and Haplogroups". I
think this paper was in direct response to a request from one of our
members - Bart O, if I remember correctly.

I copied an excerpt of the proceedings under the FILES section on this
Yahoo Group on the menu on the left.

Be sure to look at the whole paper, but here are his newly calculated
TMRCA's:

NW Irish / M222 1450±160 ybp

Irish Type III / L226 1325±225 ybp

South Irish 1400±190 ybp

North ? Irish 1324±275 ybp

Unassigned Small Branch 2150±340 ybp

I'm not sure what Anatole's North Irish haplotype is. He describes it
but I haven't looked through it in detail to see if it matches up with
something else we know.

I'm not sure what Anatole's "Unassigned small branch" is either.

I also sent him the L193 folks' haplotypes and I called it "Scottish
Borders A-1" just to give it a name other than a bunch of letters and
symbols.

Scottish Borders A-1 (11-13 Combo Group A-1) / L193
385=11,11 800±150 ybp
385=11,14 1200±140 ybp

Please look a the paper under FILES.

Regards,
Mike

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/RL21Project/message/1103

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