DNA-R1B1C7-L Archives

Archiver > DNA-R1B1C7 > 2011-12 > 1325183548


From:
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Ulster
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:32:28 -0500 (EST)


Sandy, your correct, I was referring to the O'Donnell genealogy and
pedigrees. I am not aware of anyone yet who has established a paper trail back to
Rory O'Donenll or a kinsmen. If someone knows of such a person or a DNA
result backed up by a genealogical paper trail, it would be good to hear from
them.

Alan


In a message dated 27/12/2011 09:34:19 GMT Standard Time,
writes:

I don't recall Alan talking about O'Donnell DNA samples being poor. Didn't
he talk about pedigrees? Not samples?

And in any event, such O'Donnell samples as do exist are so close to
Doherty
that we have absolutely no DNA evidence to support suspicions about the
O'Donnell pedigree.

The only strange thing to emerge so far, is that we can't separate Doherty
from McLaughlin. At least that's my interpretation.

Given that you mention 8 O'Donnells and I find only 3 means that you must
be
working with 37 markers.

[There is a wide spread in TMRCA estimates in these results. For the
O'Dohertys, 823 AD. to 1165 AD. (39.6 generations to 28.2).]

I count 49 67-marker Doherty haplotypes. I'll send the file to you
off-list.
I'm curious to know what TMRCA estimate you'd get, plus what the spread is.
I suspect that the spread narrows the more markers you use. I found that
when comparing pair-wise TMRCA estimates over 67 markers, then over 111
markers.


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of
Sent: 27 December 2011 05:09
To:
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Ulster

I'm keeping the results on different comparisons done with the Jantzen
variance calculator in a table for easy reference.

_http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/TMRCA.htm_
(http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/TMRCA.htm)

I have to agree with Alan that many of the samples, especially the
O'Donnells (8), aren't very good. I could only find two O'Boyle
samples.
14
O'Gallaghers. Lots of Dohertys.

There is a wide spread in TMRCA estimates in these results. For the
O'Dohertys, 823 AD. to 1165 AD. (39.6 generations to 28.2).



John
R1b1c7 Research and Links:

http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/
-------------------------------
To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
quotes in the subject and the body of the message

R1b1c7 Research and Links:

http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/
-------------------------------
To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject
and the body of the message

This thread: