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From: Bernard Morgan <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Laud 610
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:36:25 +0000
I always had a struggle with the truth-problem concerning the tale of our pre-history ancestors. The stories of Art mac Cuinn and his son Cormac mac Airt are set at Tara, co. Meath. Yet in a time well before the Southern Ui Neill had actually driven the Laigin from from it, i.e. the tales are historically untrue in regard to location/time. I have been hesitant to accept the argument for Turoe, co. Galway, for it does not (for me) fit the Ui Neill distribution. However I have always assume Dal Cuinn was the leading family of our pre-history. Yet “The Expulsion of the Deisi” a tale telling of the exclusion of Dal Fiachach from tribe's kingship, reminds of other similar later tales told to explain the exclusion of senior families from kingship. Could the Southern Dal Cuinn have upsurged the Dal Fiachach and lead to a transfer of the royal location away from the tribal origin to an upstart on the periphery? As the Northern Ui Neill would do so to the Southern Ui Neill.
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:02:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: [R-M222] Laud 610
> The alternative Tara (aka Teamhair) is Turoe (aka Teamhair) in East county
> The basic idea was that a large Fir Bolg (aka Belgae, La Tene Celts)
> invasion occurred in the area.
> More here:
> Note: the Turoe Stone is distinctively La Tene (Celtic Iron Age) in style,
> and one of only 3 in Ireland, the next nearest is in Roscommon.
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Bernard Morgan