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From: "Sandy Paterson" <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] MacLysaght and Woulfe and Mac Firbhisigh
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:10:00 +0100
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Oh aye the noo. Thanks for a breath of sanity.

Sandy




-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Paul Conroy
Sent: 24 August 2011 20:45
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Subject: Re: [R-M222] MacLysaght and Woulfe and Mac Firbhisigh

Jerry, Gerry,

Is there any connection between:
Mac Duinnshléibhe and O'Duinn

When I check the aforemnetioned URL, I get the following:
http://www.isos.dias.ie/libraries/NLI/NLI_MS_G_12/english/index.html

Which list the same person as:
1. *Cormac mac Duinn Sleibhi*
2. *Cormac o Duinn Sleibhi*

Which could be translated as "Cormac Dunne of the Mountains", as opposed to
"Cormac of the Mountain Fort"

What say ye??

Cheers,
Paul

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Jerry Kelly
<>wrote:

> Thanks, John. And good point about O'Hart. It was a massive work, but
(in
> my opinion) badly misguided in trying to translate all Irish names to
> English phonetic gobbledeegook, thereby breaking the clear, easy link with
> the past. I wonder whether that contributed to its mistakes. In the last
> week or so, Gerry Hoy and I found another one. In reality, the Mac
> Duinnshléibhe sloinne / surnamed family descends from the Ó hEochaidh
> sloinne, but O'Hart had it the other way around.
>
> Many thanks for showing us Mac Firbhisigh's Leabhar na nGenelach on-line.
> I did not know it was there. I'm amazed by the quality of the photos,
> excellent condition of the manuscript, and beauty of Mac Firbhisigh's
> handwriting. You can see how carefully he prepared his work for the
> printing press at Louvain. Too bad they didn't go forward with the
project.
> Buíochas le Dia that we have it finally now in the De Búrca edition
(2003)
> so we don't have to go nuts with the nodanna (shorthand).
>
> Le gach dea-ghuí / Best,
> Jerry
>
>
> Treibheanna Éireannacha
> www.irishtribes.com
>
>
> --- On Tue, 8/23/11, <> wrote:
>
> > From: <>
> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] MacLysaght and Woulfe
> > To:
> > Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 8:12 PM
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 8/23/2011 12:50:06 P.M. Central Daylight
> > Time,
> >
> > writes:
> >
> > But, from what I can tell, however, MacLysaght did
> > not have ready access
> > to Leabhar na nGenelach (The Book of
> > Genealogies) by Dubhaltach Mac
> > Fhirbhisigh. He could only get at parts of it through
> > O'Donovan's TRIBES AND
> > CUSTOMS OF HY MANY and TRIBES AND CUSTOMS OF HY
> > FIACHRACH. After waiting for
> > 350 years, Mac Fhirbhisigh's great work was finally
> > published by De Búrca
> > Books in 2003. So, when Woulfe and MacLysaght
> > disagree on a family origin,
> > I go to Mac Fhirbhisigh to see who's right.
> >
> > The MacFirbis genealogies have been online for quite a
> > while.
> > Un-translated of course with a weak index at the end.
> > Not for the faint of heart.
> >
> > _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/macfirb.htm_
> >
> > (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/macfirb.htm)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I read a story once that said that MacLysaght had a
> > copy of O'Hart's Irish
> > pedigrees open on his desk at all times.
> > I don't know if that's true or
> > not. It was not comforting to hear.
> >
> >
> > John
> > R1b1c7 Research and Links:
> >
> > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/
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