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From: "Alexander Paterson" <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] 111-Marker results
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:49:10 +0100
I've just had a closer look at the list, and the match between Grierson 7874
and Grierson 117158 is quite enlightening. I know their paper trails are
excellent too. They have a GD of 15, but with 9 off-modal matches.
I'd be most interested to know how closely they are related.
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Linda
Sent: 19 July 2011 17:21
Subject: [R-M222] 111-Marker results
[R-M222] 111-Marker results
Sandy, Thanks for the update on the 111 markers.
Doug McKee, my husband, had his second 111 markers match, just barely, with
a Duncan showing up at 9gd on the 111 total.
McCombs and my husband, Doug, are 7gd at 111 markers. We also recently hit
at 23andme on the
Relative Finder on the "blue bar".
I checked out the McGee DNA web site yesterday and Doug McKee matched Dean
McGee's modal for McGee better than any of his other testers that have 111
markers tested. Go figure on that. On the latest test of 68-111 Doug was
only 2 off their modal. That being 522 where Doug is 12 and McGee modal is
11 and 461 where Doug is 13 and McGee modal is 12. Total 9gd on 111 McGee
On our FTDNA McKee Group, Doug had another match at 23andme with a female
cousin of McKee member of our FTDNA group (on the "blue bar").
On 23andme's Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper by Brian Naughton:
Doug is R1b1b2a1a2f2, M222:
rs 20321 (M222)............A...................G...............A
L21+ P312 no call L52+ P311+ L11+ P310+ L51+
L23 no call L49+ S3+ M269+ P297+ P25+
M343 no call P286+ P225+ M173+ P242 no call
P238+ P236+ P234+ P233+ M306+ P285 no call
P224+ M207+ P227+ P280+ P232+ P229 no call
P228+ P226+ P282+ P281+ M45+ M74 no call
P244+ P283 no call .......................
..........results keeps going back and back, further and further. Then,
Brian's program reports on the mtDNA where Doug is U4a2.
I still do not understand much about DNA but I enjoy the search and the
effort to figure it out or, better yet, talk to folks who do understand it
all. Seems like a really good test here from 23andme by this fellow named
Brian Naughton. Dr. Ann Turner had commented about it in a post she was
responding to on 23andme and following her lead I found this test. Since,
it saved me the Deep Clade on FTDNA as far as I am concerned I then ordered
Thanks for your work here Sandy. I always enjoy your posts and your
exchanges with Bill and John. It is a boring morning when I don't have
posts by you folks to drink my early morning coffee with. When you disagree
and are able to talk about it and air it out I enjoy it even more. Your
exchanges with John and Jerry on the Celtic and Gaelic side of the table are
even more entertaining and educational. Now where else can one go and enjoy
all that in one digest? Sometimes, you just have to take a break and
play the Galway Gal from PS.............or something.
I just cannot imagine the list without John writing about all this wonderful
Irish history........now, where else are you going to get that?
Like a good TV series when they change cast members or like 2 and 1/2 men
without Charlie. Some things just work great the way they are. Linda McKee
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