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Subject: Re: [R-M222] M222 Chart
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:53:46 EDT
In a message dated 4/30/2011 7:24:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Also, will this exercise/these hypotheses benefit from deeper testing, like
the new Y-DNA 111 (I'm awaiting my father's results)? I assume all the
"supposing" might be served by deeper testing, and I know a broader base
would help. But at what testing level are results meaningful, and how much
does this affect the guesses? I would love for someone to explain this in
That's a good question. Bill compared his results using 37 marker and 67
data sets and found little difference in the results. They showed so
little difference he ended up using 37 markers. But I suspect 111 markers is
going to be different and Sandy has commented several times on this as well.
There is a lot of variance in quite a few of the new markers. Some are as
varied as markers in the 1-37 marker set. It could turn out to be highly
useful. I don't think we'll really know until a lot more 111 marker
results come in though.
You can confirm the basics of this yourself. Go to the public website and
chose colorized charts. Scroll through the charts just paying attention
to the level of color you see. Those are off modal marker values. There is
a lot of color in the 1-37 marker set. Much less in the 38-67 marker set.
That's because in general the 38-67 marker set are slower moving markers.
The colorized charts are now showing 111 marker results but I don't yet
see any coloring and there are no results in the first three lines for
MIN/MAX/MODE. That means there are no calculations being done yet in the new
marker set. Once they get this working you should see a modal calculated and
some coloring of off modal results.
The relevance of this is that variation in marker value is what tells us
something about DNA.