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Subject: Re: [R-M222] M222 Chart
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:09:03 EDT



In a message dated 4/30/2011 7:49:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
writes:

"So, where is the data being pulled from? I'll get other members of my
surname project to join whatever project it is so our Irish surname will be
considered worthy of being included on future charts."


I think I already answered that question. The M222 project plus I added
some samples from two different O Cathain projects, the McGovern DNA project
and hopefully, the Grier/Griersons.

Bill isn't on this list so he can't speak for himself but I think he had
to simplify things for possible publication. The chart listing every sample
in the M222 project is huge - I printed it out and it took something like
15 pages. That might be too much to include in a paper article but might
work in an online journal. It's also difficult to follow the junction lines
with so many samples. As I mentioned in his draft article he confined the
charting to 9 surname clusters (Ewing, Doherty, Dunbar, Cowan, McCord,
McGonigle, Davidson, Howle, McAdam). I thought the Irish were underrepresented
in this sampling and recommended adding McLaughlins, O Cathains and
McGoverns. We had to go outside the project to find enough samples. I chose
these names specifically because we knew something about them. All have
pedigrees in Irish ms.


Any new members to the M222 project will be welcomed but I can't guarantee
they'll be used in Bill's study. It depends on how many surname clusters
he finally decides to concentrate on.

Like Sandy, I also don't know if a purely mechanical method will
accurately cluster a large project such as M222 or tell us anything we don't already
know. It's worth a try but I don't expect miracles.


John






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