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Subject: Re: [R-M222] McHarg
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 07:45:42 EDT
The two McHargue results you refer to are the numbers 48EGY and M7U67?
In a message dated 23/03/2011 14:12:01 GMT Standard Time,
My husband, Doug McKee, FTDNA kit 127187, YSearch 7PDQP has seven
matches with McHargue, McChargue. 5 of the matches only tested 37
markers and the matches are all at 34/37 with my husband. 2 of the
matches tested to 67 markers but only hit on 37 markers also at 34/37.
(The list of matches on the McKee Group FTDNA page my husband has
includes almost every name you all discuss on this forum so seven hits
with McHargue seems like a lot.)
The Wigtownshire RootsWeb DNA-L digest mode has lately discussed this
Would these hits be something I should research further for genealogical
I appreciate reading this forum and all the posts you folks make to add
to my education. Thanks for any comments here. Linda McKee
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:44:51 +0000
From: Bernard Morgan <>
Subject: [R-M222] McHarg
To: dna-r1b1c7 <>
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>From "The Celtic monthly: a magazine for Highlanders, Volume 9 By John
Mackay, Annie Maclean Sharp Mackay"
MACHARG OR M'CARG.
Dear Sir,?Can any of your Celtic readers enlighten me as to the
etymology of the surname MacHarg? One branch of this family was the
McHargs of Shalloch, whilst another resided at Cardorkan, in Minnigaff,
a wild district, which is described in Mr. Crockett's "Raiders." In
1581, Finlay McHarg, two Alexander McHargs, and John, son of Alexander
McQuharg, were engaged in a raid on the lands of Stewart of Fintilloch;
and eleven years after the same party took an active part in a feud
between the McKies and other Galloway families, and the powerful Carrick
clan of Kennedy. The name M'Carg and M'Charray appears among the Celtic
retainers of the Earls of Cassilis about the same period. Probably it is
a variation of the Carrick surname McHarry. If so, it may possibly have
the same etymology as the Highland surname McQuharrie. Is there any
possibility of these families being of identical origin??I am, etc., Wm.
I have no idea if a reader enlightened him. Certainly Black ("The
surnames of Scotland") lists early spellings as, Macharg, M'Quharg
M'Harg, McGarg, Maharg, M'Carg. They and Kennedys do seem to have the
same M222+ dna. So I wonder if MacHarg are related to the Kennedys.
In an essay in "Medieval Scotland: Essays Presented to G.W.S Barrow" the
Kennedys are shown to have strong links with the de Carricks (numerous
appearance as witness in de Carricks' charters) and the author believes
the Kennedys travelled with Duncan mac Gilbert mac Fergus to Carrick.
This would for me suggest the Kennedys are Kin to the descendants of
Fergus of Galloway and that both are sources for Galloway's M222+
Sadly there is little written about the reasons for the conflicts
between the Northern Ui Neill and the King of Scotland in the twelfth
and thirteenth century. There is passing acknowledgement of Irish
support for Northern Scots againt Malcolm Canmore 's
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