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From: Travis Moreland <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Moreland
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:45:02 +0000
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Hi, All:

I am new to this forum and have been following the conversation for the past few days. I have recently been genotyped by 23andMe and have a positive match for R-M222 paternal haplotype (R1b1b2a1a2f2). I have long known that my maternal folks are from Killarney in County Kerry but was recently surprised to see the Irish connection on the Y-chromosome. My surname Moreland has largely been placed as having originated in the border regions in SW Scotland/ NE England. I know that Kneafsey references Woulfe as postulating Moreland as an Anglicized form of the gaelic surname "MacMurghalain". In addition, the name Moreland is very common both in SW Scotland and in Northern Ireland. As the distribution of the surname Moreland closely maps the distribution of the R-M222 haplotype I am also very interested to see if there is any mention of this in Moffat's book (which is not available to me here in the States for another month or so...).

Thanks and look forward to any feedback you may have!

Travis Moreland



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> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:16:48 +0000
> Subject: Re: [R-M222] Dohertys
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> >47% is obviously lower than the 71.6% of the Dohertys but still a
> >substantial percentage of related clan members. In their last article the Trinity
> >team discussed the Eoghanachta and Dal Cais tribes of Ireland and did not
> >find as high a degree of relatedness in their samples as the found in the Ui
> >Neill of the north, of which the Dohertys and McLaughlins were members.
> >It's possible not every Irish sept will approach the relatedness percentages
> >of the Dohertys.
>
> What struck me about the MacLeod site is that it makes it clear that clan membership has historically been open to sons-in-law. Also mentioned is foster children. Given that, 47% is a huge proportion to descend from just one man.
>
> Sandy
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [R-M222] Dohertys
>
> I'm in the process of analyzing (for the umpteenth time) DNA from the
> Doherty DNA Project. For those who don't know the surname is best known in
> Donegal and surrounding counties in the northwest of Ireland. The name is
> somewhat unusual in Irish (O Dochartaigh). Aside from the Dohertys of
> Donegal the only other origin for the surname found in surname books is O
> Dubhartaigh, found mostly in the south of Ireland, in Tipperary, Co. Clare and
> Cork. It is properly anglicised Doorty but inevitably became Doherty over the
> centuries. As far as anyone knows the surname is not indigenous to
> Scotland.
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