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From: Allene Goforth <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] The Scots : A Genetic Journey
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 07:44:26 -0700
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Alan,

My five MacAdam lines were living in Glenuig and Arieniskill at the time
they emigrated in 1790 to what is now Prince Edward Island. Arieniskill
is just a few miles outside Arisaig on the road to Fort William and no
longer exists as a community. From PEI they spread out to mainland Nova
Scotia and the East Bay area of Cape Breton Island. Although I knew
about the Lowland MacAdam lines, it never entered my head that they
might have any connection to my own Highland family until David Grierson
posted on this list last summer. He had a couple of my MacAdams in his
chart, and he was sort of assuming they were from the Lowlands. I wonder
if the Argyllshire family you refer to is mine? I'm not sure what the
official boundaries of modern-day Argyllshire are, but I'm thinking my
lines were a little too far north. If they aren't my lines, then I'd be
very interested in knowing more about them.

You are so right that sharing the same surname doesn't mean much. I had
already talked to the MacGregor admin before I ran into David. My lines
have nothing to do with Clan Gregor either. Here are the Ysearch IDs for
the five that have been tested.

DURUY (my first cousin); CBJTT; 2JEB5; RSGGP; 4HUJ2
My cousin took the Deep Clade test.

They don't have any close matches with other MacAdams. Some are buried
in nearly 1000 12/12 matches, but they all have eight 11/12 matches
with MacAdams. Nobody else is showing in that area except those eight
MacAdam lines. Six of those seem to be Americans; one is in New Zealand,
and the third I can't tell because he's on gmail. At the 67-marker
level, all my DURUY cousin's close matches are with the other four
Highland MacAdam men, but a Milligan appears as a 24/25 match.

CBJTT has a huge number of matches at the 25-marker level, and three
Mullins at the 60/67-marker level. I don't know if that is considered a
variation of Milligan.

The other three MacAdam lines are closer together. One (2JEB5) has two
Milligan matches at 61/67 and 66/67; ditto for RSGGP who also has a
match with a Grierson at 33/37; 4HUJ2 has two Milligans at 62/67 and
61/67 and a Grierson at 33/37 (who tested to 67 markers but is too
distant to appear among the matches at that level).

I look forward to your comments on these five lines, and thank you for
checking on all this.

Allene



On 3/20/2011 5:36 AM, wrote:
> Allene
>
> I am aware of the MacAdam or should I say MaCaddam family from Carsphairn?
> I have not included them for one reason. There appears to be another
> lineage of the same name from Argylshire. One of the difficulties facing a
> search like this, is that other same surnames appear in other parts of Scotland
> and they unrelated.
>
> Galloway is a good example where often families with similar surnames are
> confused with Highland clans and families, and in some cases, claimed to be
> Septs. The Griersons are a good example of this. David Grierson has worked
> hard in the background to persuade others in the Grierson Project, that the
> Griersons of Lag are a native Dumfriesshire family and not a branch of the
> Clan MacGregor.
>
> Can you tell where the best place is to find them or can you send me copies
> with some additional information to show the link with Carsphairn. I will
> check to see how they fit in.
>
> I have read some articles on the McCaddams and from memory they appear in
> the Dumfriesshire and Galloway Transactions. R. C. Reid has quite a few
> references to them in his rare collection of transcripts and extracts now
> bounded in books held at the Ewart Library in Dumfries.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> In a message dated 20/03/2011 03:57:37 GMT Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> Alan,
>
> It is very interesting about the two Amuligane modals. Are you including
> any of the five MacAdam lines that are now all tested to 67 markers? If
> so, are they in the Grierson modal?
>
> Thanks for doing all this work.
>
> Allene
>
>
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