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From: John Mclaughlin <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Conaire Mór - Conroy the Great
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:15:00 -0500
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On 10/1/2010 11:26 AM, Sandy Paterson wrote:
> there's a mention of two Livingstones (109136 and 27752) and a Dunlavy being
> M222.

There's an entry on Wikipedia that describes the various theories about
the Livingston/McLeas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_MacLea

It quotes the Duke of Argyll:

The Duke of Argyll wrote that it was possible that the eponymic
progenitor of all the Mac(Duns)leves, (MacLeas, highland Livingstones,
etc.), of Lismore may be Dunshleibe son of Aedh Alain O'Neill.[8]

He's the same Duke of Argyll who wrote the article on a possible
McEwan/MacSweeney connection. I've never seen a copy of this though.

The Wikipedia article mentions this:

"According to Dr O’Donovan descendants of this family (Cu-Uladh the son
the last MacDunshleibe King of Ulidia), soon after the English invasion
of Ireland, passed into Scotland, where they changed their name.”

Here's a quote from O'Donovan's notes to the topographical Poems on
Dunleavy:

"160. O'Duinnsleibhe, otherwise called MacDuinnsleibhe, and now
anglicised Donlevy, without either prefix. This family lost its ancient
rank shortly after the English invasion, and a branch of them removed to
Tirconnell, where they became physicians to O'Donnell. Some of them
passed into Scotland, where they made the name Dunlief and Dunlap, and
others have changed it to Livingston. See Annals of Four Masters, A.D.
1149, 1178, 1227, 1395, 1586."

The idea that MacConlea is derived from Duinn Shleibhe seems far fetched
to me but as I said I haven't read the Duke's article. One can easily
though see McLea being a contraction of MacConlea.

The MacDunlea160. O'Duinnsleibhe, otherwise called MacDuinnsleibhe, and
now anglicised Donlevy, without either prefix. This family lost its
ancient rank shortly after the English invasion, and a branch of them
removed to Tirconnell, where they became physicians to O'Donnell. Some
of them passed into Scotland, where they made the name Dunlief and
Dunlap, and others have changed it to Livingston. See Annals of Four
Masters, A.D. 1149, 1178, 1227, 1395, 1586.

The MacDunleavys from Ulster simply disappear from the annals after the
Norman invasion. I've been unable to confirm the later dates listed
above for annal entries after 1227.

the MacDunleavy surname arose from the O'Haughey line shortly prior to
the Norman invasion. The name first appears in the annals in 1165:

Eochaidh Mac Duinnsleibhe from Ulidia,

1167

Mac Duinnsleibhe Ua hEochadha, King of Ulidia;

1172

Mac Giolla Epscoip, chief of Clann-Aeilabhra, legislator of Cath
Monaigh, was treacherously slain by Donslevy O'Haughy, king of Ulidia.
The chiefs of Ulidia, who were as guarantees between them, put Donslevy
to death for it i.e. for his crime .

They couldn't have been very numerous at the time they disappeared from
the annals.



John

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