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From: Iain Kennedy <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] FTDNA Home Page
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:52:15 +0000
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Your total number of matches can always be obtained from the counts under the Recent Ancestral Origins tab, so we don't 'have more non-surname matches than we think', you just can't obtain all their surnames - a prerogative of the other punters.


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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:39:46 +0100
> Subject: [R-M222] FTDNA Home Page
> Recently, a match at a gd of 2 over 37 markers with a Burks showed up on my
> FTDNA home page. I checked the Burks site and found that the match is with
> kit number 23033. Since my kit number is 118913, this means that it's an old
> match that has only recently found its way on to my FTDNA home page.
> I think this means that the matches shown on our home pages are limited to
> matches with testees who have given permission to FTDNA to fasciliate
> contact between testees.
> If I'm right, all of us have many more non-surname matches in FTDNA than we
> think. This could explain why David Ewing believed for a long time that 3
> off-modal, non-surname matches with Ewing were like hen's teeth, whereas I
> had already found a few cases of 4 off-modal Ewing matches with McCann's or
> variants.
> I think this also explains why Paul Conroy was unaware of any matches at 67
> markers, whereas I have found a Conroy match to a Dunn at a gd of 5 over 67
> markers.
> This doesn't strike me as a very satisfactory state of affairs. All of us
> are influenced by what we see (our home pages) and I suspect that this has
> had a negative influence on progress in M222 in exploring non-surname,
> perhaps pre-surname kinships.
> I don't have a solution to the problem. Does anyone else perhaps?
> Sandy
> R1b1c7 Research and Links:
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