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From: Steven Lominac <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Souther Ui Neill
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:18:47 -0600
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You are correct John, we "believe" it to be a geographical surname (Brittany, France) vice patrilineal, however, we both have a paper trail to Johan Jacob Lamineck of Germany though his is a bit more hazy. There are several branches of the same surnames in America. Some of these families had upwards of 12 kids in the 1800s. I will just need more samples to see if I can get a definitive DNA signature for the American surname line. The person who took the test was quite incredulous upon the results of the test. He's a blonde haired, blue eyed Texan and couldn't understand that his male line predominately comes from the Fertile Crescent. When I explained to him that J2 was formed probably 25 thousand years ago and that he should probably get a deep clade test to see where the latest come from, he calmed down a bit. Anyway, that was good instant analysis on your part, any ethic line can pick up a geo surname as I explained to my donor and I am indeed reaching out to other lines.

Regards, Steve> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:53:03 -0600> From: > To: > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Souther Ui Neill> > <Sigh. The very first person to test in my new project has proven one > of us an NPE with our surname. I am an M222, this Laminack is a J2. > The search goes on.> > That's disappointing news, Steve. But isn't Lamineck thought to be a > territorial surname and not patrilineal? If so you might have a number > of different unrelated people taking the surname from the same location. > I have a Van Liewen line from Utrecht, the Netherlands, French > Huguenots who left Belgium for the Netherlands in the 1600s. Their > surname is thought to derive from the city of Lueven in Belgium. If so > you could have any number of families with the same surname. Maybe you > just haven't found the right Lamineck sample yet.> > > John> R1b1c7 Research and Links:> > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/>; -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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