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From: David Grant <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:44:10 +0100
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> "most samples just do not know where they are from. Some are guesswork based on surname books.
>
> I put the entire M222 project online in spreadsheet format as well.
>
> _Excel Spreadsheet format_
> (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/M222project.xls) "

That is a useful spread sheet.

As you say most samples have no idea where they come from. M222
research, indeed Irish DNA research, is dogged by the fact that those
who put up samples are mainly Americans who do not know where they come
from, but have the money for a test. And on the other hand the Irish,
who do know where they come from "right here, sor, for generations", but
have neither the need nor the finance to put up samples.

My own experience is that the surname books are not a good place to look
for answers. Surnames have too many derivations, many completely
unconnected except for the empty letters of the name.

I am currently putting together a project on the origins of my Grant
family in Ireland (and no most of them are not Scottish). I believe that
the only way of doing this is to get local Irish men with the surname
and some idea of their genealogy to supply a sample that I pay for! It
costs money, but is probably the only way to get the answer, for one
surname anyway.



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