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From: Bernard Morgan <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:56:09 +0000
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John, Thanks

So the M222 modal is ideal value that only one person obtained? Could I say their is no dominant central line, just several collateral lines?

Is the away to differentiate between the different directions of GDs? As there is no peak at the central modal there must be divergent lines? I would have thought randomness of mutation would have kept M222 Modal as predominate halpotype, yet I am wrong...

How is the M222 modal calculated? and why isn't the most common halpotype for M222?

> From: > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:16:09 -0500> To: > Subject: [R-M222] Genetic Distance/Diversity> > I went through the entire M222 project plotting GDs against the M222 modal > from the McGee Utility.> > 0 (1)> 1 (10)> 2 (22)> 3 (46)> 4 (76)> 5 (60)> 6 (75)> 7 (53)> 8 (42)> 9 (7)> 10 (6)> 11 (1)> > I don't know how others would interpret this but the main cluster of the > group appears to come in at between 4-6 GDs against the M222 modal. This group > includes several large surname groups (Doherty, Ewing and McLaughlin) plus > some smaller ones (Dunbar, McCord, Cowan, Duncan) and a lot of singletons.> > In a previous check of Dohertys, Mclaughlins and Ewings the GDs against the > same modal were:> > McLaughlins 5-6> Dohertys 6-7> Ewings 7-8> > Ewings GDs from the project> > 6 (2)> 7 (4)> 8 (12)> 9 (2)> 10 (2)> > > For most of the other surnames in the project (singletons) it isn't possible > to say much.> > McCord> > 3 (2)> 4 (2)> 5 (1)> 6 (2)> 8 (1)> 9 (1)> > Duncan> > 2 (1)> 8 (1)> > Dunbar> > 6 (2)> 7 (3)> 8 (3)> > I simply do not see a lot of diversity here. And nothing that can be > localized on a geographical basis (Ireland vs. Scotland vs. England). For most > surnames it's impossible to tell anything. > > There are a lot of M222 Duncans on Ysearch.> > Duncan (Ysearch)> > 7 (2)> 8 (9)> 9 (6)> 10 (2)> > Three other Duncans are so remote (14,15,16 GDS) I can't believe they're > related even though all are M222.> > > The Duncans and Ewings seem a little more distant from the modal than the > McLaughlins and Dohertys. Both are thought to be Scottish in origin. But I > can't say much just based on this. We might be able to tell more if we had > more samples for both Irish and Scottish surnames.> > > John> > > > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De>; cemailfooterNO62)> R1b1c7 Research and Links:> > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/>; -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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