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Subject: Re: [R-M222] Connachta Origins of M222
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 22:29:38 EST
In a message dated 1/7/2009 1:24:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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John, on the subject on Niall of the Nine Hostages modal. Are there families
names clustered near this central modal (i.e. DYS values) and others like
the Ewings who are clustered at a distance from it?
Lots of them. But no pattern that I can see. The Ewings seem to come in
more distantly in terms of GD than the McLaughlins and Dohertys but that's
about all I can say. Many of the surnames are singletons. You can't say much
about them. Most of our McLaughlins come in at about 5-6 GD against the M222
modal but the range is 2 to 10 or so. If you only had one sample to work with
those results could be misleading.
<As for Connacht, when was it named for the Connachta? I understand the
older versions name is Cóiced Ol nEchmacht the land of Fir Ol nEchmacht an was so
called until the early historic era (c.5th-7th centuries A.D.). The province
change name due I understand due to the rise of Connachta, however when was
this? I half remember that it is only during the time of the O'Connors did the
region and the Connachta become important on the Irish political stage? and
that the O'Connors were an Ui Neill political creation to balance the
O'Briens? who where yet another Ui Neill political creation to undermine Eoghanacht
power?
O'Rahilly has lots of background info on Connacht. I can't quote it from
memory though. Have to look it up. The one thing I do remember is he does say
the older name was Coiced Ol nEchmacht. I do recall he listed lots of early
Kings of Connacht from the Connachta line though.
I have no idea about the politics of O'Brien vs. O'Connor vs. O'Neill. I
think importance lies in the eyes of the beholder. No Eoghanacht king of
Munster was ever high king of Ireland; only three O'Briens and two O'Connors. No
kings of Leinster. That might have changed had the Normans not invaded
Ireland. That put an end to the high kingship within a century or so. The last
one was Ruaidri Ua Conchobair (+1198).
John
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