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From: John Mclaughlin <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Connachta Origins of M222
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:30:30 -0600
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<There is an alternate theory of where Tara - seat of the Irish high
kings - was actually located, that is Turoe in central Galway. This
would accord to where Ptolemy of Alexandria, writing in about 200 AD,
said it was in his geography of Ireland.

Paul, that's an interesting theory. I don't know enough to form much of
a judgment about it though. It does make me wonder though. I never
have found much southern Ui Neill DNA in Ysearch. Weren't they
supposedly kings of Tara or at least Kings of the territory of Meath in
which Tara was located? If Tara of the Connachta was not in Meath but
Galway it makes me wonder if the southern Ui Neill really did descend
from Nial and/or the Connachta as the pedigrees state.

We've got tons of M222 in the NW and adjacent counties, lots in
Connacht, but so far very little in Meath or the midlands in general. I
know you and your Dunnes are M222 - and I've found a handful of possible
southern Ui Neill DNA matches - but nothing on the scale of what we've
found in the NW and Connacht.

In our McLaughlin DNA project I've been on the lookout for any
McLoughlin DNA that might be M222 from Meath or anywhere in the
midlands. We haven't found any yet although we do have some
unidentified M222 McLaughlins who don't match the Donegal cluster.
According to O'Donovan and other surname experts, the old Kings of Meath
and High Kings of Ireland were the O Maelsechlainns (O'Melaghlins).
The spelling of their name is supposed to have changed to McLoughlin at
some point in Irish records. I also haven't found any M222 surnames
that can be linked to the Sil Maine, another southern Ui Neill group.
There is one surname on Sorenson that might be M222 and southern Ui
Neill - Geogheghan.

U7NDR Dunn U.S.
3G5W3 Dunne Kings/Offaly, Ireland
A2GCJ Molloy Tipperary, Ireland
SMGF Geoghegan Westmeath

I find this very strange since one hardly has to look for M222 in other
parts of Ireland. It's all over the place.



John

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