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From: John Mclaughlin <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] Common Markers in M222
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:46:00 -0600
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<On the ISOGG Tree 2008 link on the clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ link,
it indicates R1b1b2a1b5 S68 ... what is S68? I don't see it on my
FamilyTree DNA results?

I can give a general answer to that. Not sure of some of the specifics.
David Wilson might know.

All M222 is going to have the SNP L21. But you're only given that
classification if you have positive SNP results. If you do you'll be
R1b1b2a1b6 as indicated on the ISOGG tree. I think you're misreading
the tree for S68 though. The next SNP upstream from L21 is shown on the
tree as R1b1b2a1b P312/S116. If you test positive for M222 you get a
further designation: R1b1b2a1b6b.

Reading downwards you should find:

M269, S3, S10, S13, S17 (R1b1b2)
L23/S141, L49 (R1b1b2a)
L11/S127, L51, L52, P310/S129, P311/S128 (R1b1b2a1)
P312/S116 (R1b1b2a1b)
L21/S145 (R1b1b2a1b6)
M222/USP9Y+3636 (R1b1b2a1b6b)

As far as I know some of these SNPS between M269 and P312/S116 aren't
even tested for in FTDNA SNP tests.

You'll probably just see M269, P312, L21 and M222 listed in SNP results.

I for one refuse to type in R1b1b2a1b6b even if I could somehow remember
it. David Wilson suggested changing the name to M222 which I
wholeheartedly support.


John

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