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From: "Richard B. Hare" <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] DYS385a,b
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:53:56 -0500
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I'd love to hear anything anyone knows about DYS 385 b as a 12. Is it a
mutation of DYS 385b to 12 from it's modality of 13? Is there any
significance to it? There are a measurable number of us so it may be more
than a random event.
Cheers,
Dick Hare

-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Colin Ferguson
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:57 AM
To: DNA-R1b1c7
Subject: [R-M222] DYS385a,b

In the Fergus(s)on DNA Project we have a cluster of 6 people of no
konwn genealogical relation wherein DYS385a,b=12,12; see
http://dna.cfsna.net/HAP/R1b/NWIrish.htm

A searched YSearch, SMGF and the R-M222 Haplogroup project revealed
few instances DYS385a,b=12,12. This got me to wondering just how far
removed 12,12 is from the modal 11,13. On the face of it I would say a
genetic distance of 2 but being a palindromic marker I know that it
can be more complicated than that. How many ways can 11,13 mutate to
12,12?

Related question: what is the modal Kittler test for R-M222?
Thanks,
Colin Ferguson
R1b1c7 Research and Links:

http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/
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