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From: "Sandy Paterson" <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] (no subject)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:31:24 -0000
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Hi R.C.

Right I'm with you now.

If you have a look at the haplotypes in the Green group you'll notice that
the vast majority of them are 15,16,16,17 at DYS 464 a,b,c,d
Those that aren't are very close.

That's a dead giveaway for M222+ so you can be fairly sure that they're all
M222+ regardless of whether they've had an SNP test. That's probably why
they've been grouped together.


Sandy



-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of R. C. Mac Donald
Sent: 04 December 2008 18:14
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Subject: [R-M222] (no subject)


Hi, Sandy.

Sorry I wasn't clearer on my point about the 10% figure; I'm an abysmally
slow typist, so I tend toward the cryptic in my writing sometimes.

What I meant was that the green subgroup includes, but is not limited to,
the R1b1c7 haplogroup. From the information given for those subgroup
members who've given a Ysearch ID number, it looks like only a handful (I
counted eight last time I checked) of the 60 are identified as R1b1 ...
(whatever the new name is for old R1b1c7), and there's no way to tell how
many of these have been confirmed as M222+, and how many are reporting
their
haplogroup based on an estimate; in the latter case I think it matters
how
long ago this estimate was done, since the greater number of samples now
available may have shifted some modal values for the haplogroup to the
point
that what may have looked like a candidate for inclusion three or four
years
ago no longer does. I have no evidence to suggest this is the case with
any
of the members in the subgroup, I'm just naturally hesitant to make
assumptions when I'm aware, as I am on this topic, how far my ignorance
outstrips my knowledge.
R1b1c7 Research and Links:

http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/
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