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From: John McLaughlin <>
Subject: Re: [R-M222] NPE Frequency
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:49:09 -0600
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<Having set out in some detail why it is not a logical deduction, I
don't think there's anything further I can do.>

Then we can just disagree. You don't need to be a Scot to do that.

<I must say I'm puzzled. You've responded to almost every e-mail I've
posted (which I appreciate), but you seem to have missed (or ignored)
much of what I've said, particularly about the impact of NPE's.

Maybe we should clear this up before continuing. Would you like me to
give you the dates and times of the specific e-mails to save you having
to sift through what's been said? I'll do so with pleasure if wish..>

I'll apologize for that. There are some things I don't respond to
either because I have no real position one way or the other or I think
someone else might respond. I think what you're referring to though is
the following:

"This seems quite relevant to me in considering for instance the DNA of
purportedly Dalriadic descendants. In particular, the roughly 10% R1b1c7
found in Clan McDonald would seem to be about what one would expect if
they were originally R1b1c7."

This statement is what started the thread which is why I responded in
the first place. There is nothing in history which suggests to me that
the Scottish Dal Riata were originally R1b1c7. What you're suggesting
here is a possibility but in my opinion a remote one. I already
mentioned the reasons why I do not think the Scottish Dal Riata were
originally R1b1c7. Again in my opinion the most likely possibility is
the Scot modal. If you don't know by now I almost always respond to DNA
questions in a historical context. As to the 10% figure I can think of
a lot of other ways that could come about.

I think the issue Sandy wants people to chime in on is whether he is
right that the 10% of R1b1c7 in the McDonald project proves the Scottish
Dal Riata were originally R1b1c7. If I misstated his position I'm sure
he'd be happy to clarify it himself.

Does anyone else on the list have an opinion?


John

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